Hi Job,

Thanks for the input regarding draft-keyur-idr-bgp-prefix-limit-orf-03.

That’s what I meant. Incoming peer prefix limit needs to be advertised by BGP. 
I think it’s a bad idea to configure statically an outbound peer maximum prefix 
limit. The only reason why I want that is to align with my peer. Ideally, these 
parameters should be automatically exchanged between peers. John and Robert 
point out that both of them are in competition which should take precedence. 
This points usually to a bad design.

Let me go to the big picture and share my thoughts. The reason why we want 
inbound prefix limits is because we don't have endless resources in the BGP 
RIB's. Right? Thanks to

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7854#section-4.8


we are able to monitor their usage. Great. But we don't have any IETF YANG 
model available giving us the maximum possible route count on each BGP RIB. 
Why? Therefore we don't know at which threshold we should alarm. Nor we don't 
know at which static threshold we should limit the amount of prefixes we 
receive from which peer. Nor thus this mechanism account for the BGP local RIB 
maximum capable routes. If my BGP local RIB supports 1'000'000 routes and I 
have 10 peers with an average of 70'000 routes each. How high should I set the 
inbound prefix limit? My answer: +10% more prefixes in BGP local RIB than 
alert, +20% more in BGP local RIB than limit the peer which caused the issue 
and alert. Should be monitored with BMP stats reports 
(https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7854#section-4.8) and orchestrated 
automatically within BGP YANG model (container prefix-limit). Monitored and 
orchestrated in a closed loop operation. Do we want' that logic to be built in 
routers? Does one router has the big picture of the network and their peerings? 
No. Therefore it needs to be solved outside the BGP router.



Kind regards
Thomas Graf
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From: GROW <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Robert Raszuk
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 5:02 PM
To: John Scudder <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [GROW] Prefix limit ORF

And with this in mind the draft needs to define expected behaviour when locally 
configured outbound prefix limit is different from ORF pushed one (someone's 
inbound).

Lowest wins, static wins, latest wins etc ... otherwise each implementation may 
choose differently ;)

thx
R.

On Tue, Mar 26, 2019, 16:59 John Scudder 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Apropos Job’s talk just now —

draft-keyur-idr-bgp-prefix-limit-orf-03
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-keyur-idr-bgp-prefix-limit-orf-03

—John
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