>From: Brian Dickson <[email protected]> 
>Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 5:19 PM
  ... snip ...
>(We authors have done extensive analysis, too much to present on-list, IMHO.)

Authors-team discussion (design rationale) slides with extensive scenario 
analyses are here:
(some of it presented in IDR/GROW WG meetings)
https://www.nist.gov/sites/default/files/documents/2018/10/22/rlp_using_bgp_community-v4.pdf
 

Sriram



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From: GROW <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf of Nick Hilliard 
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Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2019 6:22 AM
To: Brian Dickson
Cc: mailto:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [GROW] call for feedback on 
draft-ietf-grow-route-leak-detection-mitigation

Brian Dickson wrote on 15/06/2019 00:42:
> Please take a look and, if you think this is an important problem to fix
> (route leaks), add your voice here.

there are two things here: route leaks (important), and the proposal in
draft-ietf-grow-route-leak-detection-mitigation.  We can probably all
agree that route leaks are a persistent threat.

What concerns me about this draft is that it takes an over-simplified
view of real-life networks and there's not a small amount of implied
pigeon-holing going on.  The difficult with the draft is that many
networks don't fall into these neatly defined categories.  There are
back-doors, partial transit configs, PNI arrangements, subnet leaks and
all sorts of weird things out there, none of which are easy to
categorise, but which nevertheless make up an important part of the
routing ecosystem.

Characterisation of these edge cases is a difficult problem.  I'm not
convinced this can be done adequately without an expressive grammar
(note: not rpsl).  I'm also not convinced that the approach taken in
draft-ietf-grow-route-leak-detection-mitigation is generic enough to be
worth deploying.

Nick
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