Dear GROW WG,

Thank you very much for the provided feedback.

Regarding BGP next-hop attribute of local originated routes when exposed with 
draft-ietf-grow-bmp-local-rib. We understood that it differs among vendor 
implementation. Therefore we decided to add an informational paragraph in 
draft-ietf-grow-bmp-local-rib to describe that behavior so it's not perceived 
as being wrongly implemented.

Regarding peer_up message type vendor implementations when multiple BMP RIB's 
are configured. We have observed that there are two different peer_up message 
type vendor implementations.


  *   For each RIB having one peer_up message
  *   For all RIB's together one peer_up message containing a nonstandard 
extension describing the AFI/SAFI covered

It seems that IETF specifications are either not precise enough or one of the 
two types of implementations is not according to RFC.

Please feedback to the mailing list if for each RIB having one peer_up message 
is intendent and according to RFC 8671 or not. Further we like to know if it 
makes sense to combine these peer_up's into one new peer_up message type 
definition and you would support such a draft.

Hackathon Reference: 
https://github.com/IETF-Hackathon/ietf106-project-presentations/blob/master/IETF106-hackathon-BMP.pdf

Best Wishes
Thomas Graf

From: Graf Thomas, INI-ONE-WSN-DCF
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Cc: Guyunan (Yunan Gu, IP Technology Research Dept. NW) <[email protected]>; 
Camilo Cardona <[email protected]>; Paolo Lucente <[email protected]>; Arnold 
Matthias, SCS-NIT-NIO-NTO-COY-EDG <[email protected]>; Christian 
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Subject: BMP @ IETF 106 Hackathon, GROW WG Feedback

Dear GROW WG,

We tested interoperability between router and data-collection for the following 
BMP drafts and RFC's at the past two days at the IETF 106 hackathon.


  *   draft-ietf-grow-bmp-local-rib (BGP Local RIB)
  *   RFC 8671 (BGP Adj-RIB Out)

Attached you will find a slide deck describing


  *   what we did
  *   our findings and discovery of missing gaps
  *   and next steps for hackathon 107

We would like to collect some feedback from the GROW working group regarding 
the following two questions:


  *   We noticed that depending on vendor implementation of 
draft-ietf-grow-bmp-local-rib, BGP next-hop attribute value of local originated 
routes are exposed differently (127.0.0.1 vs. 0.0.0.0). We noticed that RFC 
4271 does specify how BGP next-hop attribute is defined when propagated to 
neighbors, but does not specify what the next-hop attribute value should be 
when route is locally originated and still is in BGP local RIB installed, 
before it is propagated to any peer. We would like to collect best common 
practice among vendors and would like to understand if you would support that 
we describe this common practice in draft-ietf-grow-bmp-local-rib or not.
  *   We noticed that BMP peer up message type implementation of RFC 8671 
differs among vendors. Depending on vendors, the BMP collector either receives 
one or 4 peer up peer up messages (with different O and L bit set in peer 
header) if BMP Adj-RIB Out and/or post policy is configured. We would like to 
understand which vendor implemented/understood what; which approach makes sense 
the most and why. If there are reasons why one of the two possibilities could 
causing issues/drawbacks, we would like to understand the reasons.


And last but not least if you are interested to participate in the next BMP 
hackathon at IETF 107 in Vancouver please let us know. The bigger and diverse 
the group is, the better. We like to validate and test BMP implementations, 
feedback and contribute input to the GROW working group for a better BMP 
standardization. Thanks a lot for your support.

Best Wishes
Thomas Graf

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