Hi Ben,

Per your comment below about the IANA registration.
The authors have indicated that the registry "BMP Initiation Message TLVs" 
should be changed to "BMP Initiation and Peer Up Information TLVs".

This should be specified as instructions to IANA in the document as mentioned 
in our Ballot message.

--Michelle

Michelle Cotton
Protocol Parameters Engagement Sr. Manager
IANA Services



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    I was going to call out a couple of my remarks, but the particularly 
important
    ones seem to already be covered by Alvaro's Discuss, which I consequently 
support.

    I also proposed some editorial suggestions in a github PR:
    
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/TimEvens/draft-ietf-grow-bmp-loc-rib/pull/23__;!!PtGJab4!v9V65ouZqdrSqKFaRfbs59VcrVhE_k1bBr-aH7LNu2lqDYxBCazCbKVtML5iP9kXdEjcSeu78HU$
 

    Section 1

    Please expand SPF and CSPF on first use
    
(https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.rfc-editor.org/materials/abbrev.expansion.txt__;!!PtGJab4!v9V65ouZqdrSqKFaRfbs59VcrVhE_k1bBr-aH7LNu2lqDYxBCazCbKVtML5iP9kXdEjcFopmun8$
  seems to only
    mark "OSPF" as well-known and not in need of expansion).

          For example, the received Adj-RIB-In will be different if add-
          paths is not enabled or if maximum number of equal paths are
          different from Loc-RIB to routes advertised.

    Where is "add-paths" defined?

    Section 1.1

       monitored.  As shown in Figure 3, the target router Loc-RIB is
       advertised via Adj-RIB-Out to the BMP router over a standard BGP

    Where is "the BMP router" defined/indicated?  From context I assume it
    is "a router inserted into the BGP network for the (sole?) purpose of
    re-exporting via BMP a data stream".  Perhaps it is simpler to avoid the
    new term and just say "to another BGP-speaking router" and "That router
    then forwards"?

          version information).  In order to derive a Loc-RIB to a router,
          the router name or other system information is needed.  The BMP

    (nit): is there a missing word here around "to a router"?  ("entry"?
    s/to/for/?)
    I'm having a hard time parsing this sentence so I can't just make a
    suggestion in my editorial PR.

    Section 3

       *  Post-Policy Adj-RIB-Out: The result of applying outbound policy to
          an Adj-RIB-Out. This MUST be what is actually sent to the peer.

    My memory may be failing me, but I think I remember some discussion of
    this (MUST-level) requirement on Post-Policy Adj-RIB-Out some years ago,
    presumably in the context of a different document.  Is this a
    preexisting requirement that we could refer to, or a new requirement
    being imposed here?

    Section 4.1

       A new peer type is defined for Loc-RIB to distinguish that it
       represents Loc-RIB with or without RD and local instances.

    I think I'm confused by the line about "with or without RD and local
    instances".  Is there a choice made by the sender?  How would the
    recipient know which choice was made?
    Continuing on to read Section 5.1, it seems that the "peer
    distinguisher" field in the per-peer header can be used by the recipient
    to differentiate the cases, so perhaps it is more clear to say here
    "[...] represents Loc-RIB.  Its representation can differentiate between
    instances with and without RD, and use a unique local value to indicate
    local instances."?

    Section 4.2

       In section 4.2 of [RFC7854], the "locally sourced routes" comment
       under the L flag description is removed.  If locally sourced routes

    We might want to mention this focused update to RFC 7854 in the
    introduction alongisde of the mention that Section 8.2 of RFC 7854 is
    completely replaced.

       are communicated using BMP, they MUST be conveyed using the Loc-RIB
       instance peer type.

    It seems like this might be a breaking change during incremental
    deployment, as a BMP receiver might lose a data stream it was otherwise
    receiving until it gets a software update.  It seems like at a minimum
    this should get called out in the "other considerations" section, and
    maybe a more graceful transition procedure defined/allowed.

    Section 5.x

    We don't cover the Initiation/Termination messages from RFC 7854, but do
    seem to have at least brief mentions of the others.  This is probably
    fine, but I just wanted to confirm that the processing of those messages
    is unchanged for the Loc-RIB case compared to the existing cases.

    Section 5.1

       *  Peer Address: Zero-filled.  Remote peer address is not applicable.
          The V flag is not applicable with Loc-RIB Instance peer type
          considering addresses are zero-filed.

    Since we split the flags off into being per-peer-type, there no longer
    is a V flag defined and we may not need to have text about its
    irrelevance.

    Section 5.2.1

       *  Type = 3: VRF/Table Name.  The Information field contains a UTF-8
          string whose value MUST be equal to the value of the VRF or table

    It is hopefully implicit, but I'd suggest repeating the language from RFC
    7854 that "[t]here is no requirement to terminate the string with a null
    (or any other particular) character" to avoid any doubt.  (Likewise in
    Section 5.3.)

    Section 5.3

       Peer down notification MUST use reason code 6.  Following the reason

    Should we forward-reference Section 8.4 where we allocate that value?

    Section 7

       The same considerations as in section 11 of [RFC7854] apply to this
       document.  Implementations of this protocol SHOULD require to

    (side note) I think the current security considerations text is
    appropriate for this document, but noticed that RFC 7854 recommended
    IPsec in tunnel mode (vs. transport mode), which was a little surprising
    to me.  That said, changing the recommendation now just for Loc-RIB
    would be disruptive for negligible benefit, so this is just a side note
    and no change is recommended.

    Section 8.2

    I suspect that we want to create a new sub-registry for the peer-type-3
    flags.

       This document defines a new flag (Section 4.2) and proposes that peer
       flags are specific to the peer type:

    I'd suggest not using the word "proposes" anymore; we're basically at
    the approval stage and it's more like a "going to happen" thing than a
    "proposal".

    Section 8.3

    Is there actually an existing registry for PEER UP informational message
    TLV types?  I don't see anything listed at
    https://www.iana.org/assignments/bmp-parameters/bmp-parameters.xhtml
    that matches up to that very well.


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