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[Updated ballot 20Nov2025]
# Gunter Van de Velde, RTG AD, comments for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats-15

# The line numbers used are rendered from IETF idnits tool:
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# Many thanks for the RTGDIR review from Bruno and the shepherd writeup from
Job.

# Thanks for great work resolving 3 DISCUSS items and all my COMMENTS with the
v15 update.

# DISCUSS
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#1# [Updated] BCP14 language is used in section 5. and i realized there may of
been a miscommunication. The newly introduced section 5.1. discusses formal
operational aspects of the BMP implementation, and it seems appropriate to have
BCP14 language to formalize this. The section 5.2. discusses the operator
operational aspects of the BMP usage and the BCP14 there seems inappropriate
from formal protocol behavior. I understand that the intent of this language in
5.2. is to stress operator importance. Potentially add a clarification in the
"1.1. Requirements Language" section clarifying that the BCP14 is used to
stress importance for operators but are not required as formal implementation
requirement.

#2# [Updated] accurately gauge descriptions. Discussion on what is
primary/backup path/route exactly means is unclear. The draft states for
example:

"
Primary route: A BGP route to a prefix that is considered the best route by the
BGP decision process [RFC4271]. A prefix can have more than one primary route.

Backup route: A backup route is eligible for route selection, but it is not
selected as the primary route and is also installed in the Loc-RIB. Backup
routes are used for fast convergence in the event of failures. "

There is unclarity between what is primary route, bgp best path selected and
active route. The BGP process yields only a single BGP path, but multiple
routes (-more as only the BGP single best path) can be yielded into actively
forwarding traffic (ECMP or uECMP).

The backup route, may be used for FRR, but that is not always true. Maybe
slghtly soften the text.

I align with Ketan's DISCUSS (his first discuss item) on accurate understanding
for these terminology.

#3# [Resolved] some gauges seem duplicates from prior existing gauges. Section
5.1 addresses this concern.

#4# [resolved] section 3 is named "3. Statistics Definition" renamed to "3. RIB
Monitoring Statistics" and a new section "3.1. Statistics Format" is introduced
to resolve the discuss

#5# [resolved] unclear "Value" description for gauges was resolved by the new
section "3.1. Statistics Format"


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# COMMENTS
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My comments were appropriatly addressed with the v15 draft

Many thanks for this document,

Kind Regards,
Gunter Van de Velde
RTG AD



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