On Jul 8, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Peter Hosey <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Jul 8, 2011, at 07:14:06, Chris @ fullphat wrote:
>> On Jul 7, 8:20 pm, Peter Hosey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Jul 7, 2011, at 12:12:01, Neal Horman wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Interesting that it is a GfW spec.
>>> 
>>> GfW hosts it, but it was jointly developed between us and them, with 
>>> developers of all the other notification systems of the time also present 
>>> (they were welcome to pipe up but ended up not saying much).
>> 
>> That's generally true but we (Snarl) had our own TCP-based protocol in place 
>> at the time and were working on support for Growl's UDP implementation.  We 
>> proposed our implementation (SNP) and were quite strongly shouted down by 
>> the Growl team, hence we retreated to a safe distance.
> 
> What? I searched my mail archive and couldn't find anything about SNP. When 
> and where was this?
> 

I don't remember this either. 


>> My personal take is that GNTP is still a rather bloated protocol, being 
>> based around a mime format rather than something more current such as XML.
> 
> My opinion at the time was that XML would have been more bloated, 
> particularly for visually reading; I proposed using or emulating MIME so that 
> it would be simpler, not more complex.
> 
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