So let me be clear here. I replied in the way that I did since most people
don't seem to want the very technical explanation. However, just to make
sure you understand why I said to go to Skype support, I'm going to be as
verbose as I can be without providing what my wife calls a "level 11 on the
geek scale". If this needs to be simpler or more complex, let me know and
I'll try to accommodate.

Alright, so in Growl.framework 1.2.1, the framework stopped assuming that
Growl was a system preference pane, or prefpane. This was actually a fix
performed by accident, but luck would have it that is what happened. The
framework is what cocoa applications use to talk to Growl typically. So any
application which uses the 1.2.0, 1.1.x, or 0.x line of frameworks are not
going to work with Growl 1.3. This is something that the end user can
address with a workaround, but we're also working on a tool to make this
easier for users, enabling you folks to make things just work while waiting
on application developers to fix things.

Also, if a developer decided to use the isInstalled method, then no amount
of workarounds will work. They will need to update their Growl support. This
was not something in our documentation, and was intended for Growl.framework
to use the method, but it is what it is and we can't go back now. We must
move forward.

The problem is that we didn't expect that this would be a very large issue
at all really. One or two applications wouldn't work. But instead it's
happening with more applications than we thought. If we had thought for even
a moment that this would be the amount of feedback we would be getting, the
updated Growl Version Detective to update application bundles with a newer
framework would have been done before we even submitted Growl to the app
store. More or less when the 1.3 sdk is completed, people will be able to
hand replace the Growl.framework inside of applications and they will start
to work again, like magic (yay, magic!). Except for a few apps, like
Spotify, Firefox and Thunderbird for example, since they implemented things
in a different way.

That said, I'm not a fan of instructing anyone to go into an application
bundle of any other developers apps. It's the workaround we have now, but
the ideal solution would be to have something where you can pick an
application, tell something to update it, and then when it's working contact
the developer to let them know that there's a problem, and that you're using
this modified solution for now.

So, if and when an application decides to update, if they fix their Growl
support you wouldn't need to reapply the workaround. But if they did, then
you would.

We're looking at about another week to two weeks on the whole solution for
folks. We also have a crasher in 1.3 that we're working on updating, so we
haven't turned on the update checker for Growl to inform 1.2.2 users on 10.7
that 1.3 is available. Obviously a lot of people learned from other sources,
but as of yet we haven't sent any announcements out yet.

I've typed a small novel here, hopefully it all makes sense. If it doesn't
I'm happy to explain any portion a bit further.

Chris



On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Chris Georgiev <[email protected]>wrote:

> AH, what a answer, isn't Growl your product that I paid for, why the
> hell I need to contact Skype, it's your product that used to be free
> and perfectly working with Skype, now I have to take care of your
> issues, guess what review I will be posting for the app... Guys,
> seriously, have to push and fix that problems..
>
> best,
>
> Chris
>
> On Oct 13, 1:18 am, Christopher Forsythe <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On the style configuration issue, you'll need to restart Growl for that
> to
> > reflect the changes. We have this fixed in 1.3.1.
> >
> > Regarding Skype, you will need to contact their support, they need to
> update
> > Skype to work with Growl.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 6:28 AM, Chris Georgiev <
> [email protected]>wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Just installed Growl 1.3 on OS X Lion 10.7.1 and can't control the
> > > style and position of notifications at all. I use Skype 5.03 and can't
> > > make him work with Growl - the growl option for the notifications is
> > > inactive so can't be selected. Can you pls advice what have caused the
> > > problem?
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