Dear Myrsini,
A negative S220 is perhaps “improbable” and fixing it at zero (or maybe 1.0) 
isn’t a bad idea. The mustrain surface plot will show, by a strong indentation 
in the surface, the effect of a small S220. For whatever its worth, the 
implication is that the structure is very “stiff” in that direction/plane. You 
can also try setting it to a small positive value, and then repeating the 
refinement. Sometimes, the least squares will push a too large initial value 
negative on a refinement cycle and then not be able to return it to be above 
zero. Starting it small & positive then allows the LS to find a better value 
that is otherwise close to zero. I’ve seen this when the isotropic mustrain is 
apparently very small & starting at the default (1000) yields a negative 
mustrain on the 1st cycle; starting at 100 yields a more sensible result.
Best,
Bob

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Subject: [GSAS-II] Generalized-Model-Negative-Parameter


Dear GSAS-II users,



I am refining a synchrotron’s pattern of intercalated FeSe sample named 
LiPyFeSe, with Pnma space group. I’ve  tried to use the generalized microstrain 
model which well-fits couple of the high-Q peaks which the isotropic model 
doesn’t. BUT, one of the parameters (S220) of the generalized model becomes 
negative. I’ve tried not to refine this specific parameter and the pattern is 
well fitted again.



My questions are:

  1.  What could be the meaning of the negative S220 parameter? (note: I have 
calculated instrument parameters from calibrant and also I’ve investigated the 
family of 220 planes in the patterns and I didn’t find something weird eg. 
Bkgr, noise)
  2.  Is it obligatory to refine all the parameters of the generalized model, 
coming from the selected space group?



Thank you in advance!



Best regards,

KAITATZI Myrsini

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