Hi,

I provide two answers at varying levels of sophistication.

1) (Less detail answer) Yes! Of course MDS4 can do this, because MDS4 can be used to publish, index, and query just about any kind of information. From an architectural standpoint, this is well within the scope of what one can do with MDS4. In fact, there is at least one high-availability/production/heavily used system that does this: the NSF TeraGrid. (See details below.)

2) (More detail answer) Yes and no. From a strictly "out of the box" perspective, MDS4 will not do this for you without additional work on your part. The kind of information that current Globus Web services publish is not sufficient to allow you to discover and use them without "out of band" knowledge of them. However, as noted above, it is entirely possible to publish that "out of band" knowledge in MDS4 and enable these things to be done. It just doesn't happen automatically.

Example:

NSF's TeraGrid uses MDS4 to publish the information about the software and services that are coordinated among the many resources deployed on TeraGrid. As we started doing this, we found the limitation noted in point (2): one could not use the "default" information published about services to understand what each service does, and there were details that were important to end users that needed to be added. So, that's exactly what we did. We looked for an existing data schema to encode the details, and couldn't find one that met our needs. So we designed one ourselves (in coordination with the MDS4 developers, who know a lot about good schema design), and are now using it to publish data about TeraGrid's software and services.

An example of the results (this is a live query, not just a sample) is available http://info.teragrid.org:8080/webmds/webmds?info=tgislocal&xsl=kitsregistration . When you look at this page (quite complicated!), keep in mind that this page is *not* for end users: it's for internal debugging purposes. The end users see the data in a much nicer format (interactive browsing, etc.) on the TeraGrid documentation website. Good examples of how this data describes software and services would be:

a) In the "iu.teragrid.org" site's section, there is a subsection called "app-support.teragrid.org." (This section contains the data on software/services to support application development and execution.) Click the "Software" link to expand the list of software. These are all local software packages (compilers, libraries, languages) that are available once you're logged into the system. The information service provides the name, version, and details on how to add the tool to the user environment for each. You can see the same information via a ReST query at http://info.teragrid.org/restdemo/html/tg/sites/iu.teragrid.org/resources/bigred.iu.teragrid.org/kits/app-support.teragrid.org/software .

b) For a service example, look at the subsection called "data- movement.teragrid.org." (This section contains the data on software/ services to support data movement into or out of the system.) Click the "Services" link to expand the list of services. These are all services accessible remotely (some are Web services, some are not), and the information service provides the name of the service, the type of the service (protocol used), the version of the software, and the service endpoint (host/port and/or WS URL). You can see the same information via a ReST query at http://info.teragrid.org/restdemo/html/tg/sites/iu.teragrid.org/resources/bigred.iu.teragrid.org/kits/data-movement.teragrid.org/services .

Note that in addition to the details about each software item and each service, the information service also organizes the information into functional areas: data movement, application development & runtime, and so on. This is important information, too! A service may be listed in more than one section if it supports more than one functional area. But the important thing is that this allows users to look up services based on the problem(s) they are supposed to help with.

For more details (such as the schema used by TeraGrid), see http://info.teragrid.org/ .

       -- Lee


On Apr 20, 2008, at 3:02 AM, Lin Wan wrote:

Hi,
Can anyone tell me whether MDS4 can provide Grid Service's Description Query ? (such as Grid Service's type, usage?)
                                
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Lin Wan
2008-04-20


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