Thx alot Stuart for the reply it is so helpful , something else @
http://www.globusconsortium.org/tutorial/ch7/page_2.php there is a
command to test the pbs and globus connection which is this command "
globusrun-ws -submit -F
https://nodeb.ps.univa.com:8443/wsrf/services/ManagedJobFactoryService
-Ft PBS -c /bin/sleep 120 " but when i do test it it is not working
and showing me services unavailable, is there any other way to test
the PBS and globus ?

Thank you
regards,
sherif

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Stuart Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Feb 25, 2009, at Feb 25, 11:50 AM, Sherif Nagy wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am a little bit new into grid computing and globus, I have been
>> reading @ http://globus.org/toolkit/docs/4.2/4.2.1/admin/install/ and
>> @ http://www.globusconsortium.org/tutorial/ for few days now. but i am
>> a little bit confused , as my setup now having a job batch and
>> scheduling system that is already working " Torque/PBS with Maui " one
>> machine running pbs_server " which will be running globus as far as I
>> understand " and 4 machines running the pbs mini server pbs_mom which
>> connects to the PBS and everything works perfect, so if i understand
>> correctly I'll install globus toolkit into the PBS server with
>> --enable-wmfs-pbs flag
>
> Yes.  But it is "--enable-wsgram-pbs"
>
>> and no need to install anything on the compute
>> nodes "the other 4 machines" ?
>
> Right.
>
>> not even globus-ftp gridftp services
>> for file management ?
>
> Well, GRAM assumes there is a shared file system for the compute cluster
> (head node and worker nodes).  Typically, there is a gridftp server running
> on the same host as the gram service and used for file transfers from/to
> remote clients to/from the head node.  But you can configure the gridftp
> server to run on a separate host and configure ws gram to use it.  If there
> are any file system path differences between these 2 hosts, then add those
> filesystem mapping file.
>
> http://www.globus.org/toolkit/docs/4.0/admin/docbook/ch11.html#s-wsgram-Interface_Config_Frag-filesysmap
>
>> the globus will just submit the job to the pbs
>> and the pbs will handle everything else ?
>
> With a shared file system, then PBS will schedule and execute the jobs.
>  Then gram will perform and remote file transfers before and after the job,
> e.g. file stage in and out (and cleanup).
>
>> also if i have another
>> cluster i'll have to install globus on the master node and link both
>> globus setup together right ?
>
> You would do the same installation on the 2nd cluster.  And now you can
> submit gram jobs to each.
>
> Then there are client workload tools that will facilitate the execution to
> multiple gram installations.
>
> Some populate tools for this are: Condor-G, GridWay, Swift, GEMLCA, AHE
>
> http://dev.globus.org/wiki/Incubator/Swift
> http://www.gridway.org
> http://www.cs.wisc.edu/condor/condorg/
> http://wiki.realitygrid.org/wiki/AHE_GENIUS
> http://dev.globus.org/wiki/Incubator/GEMLCA
>
>>  and what about the clients do they need
>> to deploy globus also ?  please advice and if there is any extra links
>> will help me understand the big picture will be appreciated.
>
> The GRAM documentation is here:
>        http://www-unix.globus.org/toolkit/docs/4.0/execution/wsgram/
>
>>
>> Thank you
>> regards,
>> Sherif
>
>

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