Hi,

> Am 05.02.2018 um 09:54 schrieb rhn <opcomali....@porcupinefactory.org>:
> 
> Hi Nikolaus,
> 
> On Mon, 5 Feb 2018 09:28:20 +0100
> "H. Nikolaus Schaller" <h...@goldelico.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi rhn,
>> 
>>> Am 04.02.2018 um 23:40 schrieb rhn <opcomali....@porcupinefactory.org>:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> On Sun, 4 Feb 2018 17:01:55 +0100
>>> "H. Nikolaus Schaller" <h...@goldelico.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> FOSDEM is over and I am leaving for the airport in 10 minutes :(
>>>> 
>>>> FOSDEM was an as interesting experience as every time.
>>>> Many people to meet, many talks, (too) many topics in
>>>> parallel... You have to decide how to spend time and know
>>>> in advance that you miss 90% of important things.
>>>> 
>>>> Unfortunately I didn't notice any talk, booth, presentation,
>>>> material to mention OpenMoko. Except some people who did remember
>>>> when we came into talking. But as said I haven't been everywhere :)
>>>> So if anyone did see something, please share.  
>>> 
>>> OpenMoko was mentioned near the end of FOSDEM at a Birds of Feather phone 
>>> development event that was organized ad-hoc on Saturday:
>>> 
>>> https://bobsummerwill.com/2018/02/03/helping-purism-not-to-make-the-same-mistakes/
>>>   
>> 
>> interesting! I think nobody of our tinkerphones, gta04, Pyra, Replicant 
>> developers did know about it.
>> 
>>> 
>>> It was focused on Purism as the most recent contender to the title of a 
>>> free software phone, but the conversation was really about other platforms, 
>>> as you might guess from the post.
>>> 
>>> There were people present involved with Purism, Jolla, Postmarket OS, 
>>> Maemo, Mer, but also Fairphone and Plasma Mobile (sorry about those I 
>>> forgot). Personally, I regret not meeting any people from Pyra, OpenMoko, 
>>> ZeroPhone or Replicant, but I hope that at FOSDEM was an anomaly and that 
>>> the community is not splitting in half :)  
>> 
>> To me it looks as if the community is already split in half, because the 
>> projects you list were "missing" on the list by Bob Summerwill. Well, if 
>> there had been a dedicated devroom it might have been very different because 
>> we would have known about a meeting opportunity long before.
>> 
>> Another observation is that Bob's initiative seems to focus on mobile 
>> software while we are more on the interfaces and down to hardware.
>> 
>> BR and thanks for sharing! Next year... :)
>> 
>> Nikolaus
> 
> Some of these projects were indeed missing, but OpenMoko is listed as the 
> third one ;) (Replicant is also there). You read the message correctly, the 
> discussion mostly ignored the hardware aspect. However, not all hope is lost, 
> since Purism and Fairphone both have a strong focus on the hardware, so that 
> could be a meeting point.
> 
> Perhaps it's worth trying to organize a similar event at the next FOSS event, 
> but this time plan it in advance and bring the *whole* community together?

Definitively. Maybe a dedicated "Mobile HW&SW Devroom" would help. I think 
devrooms must be requested around September.

Let's hope that it will not be forgotten till then :)

BR,
Nikolaus

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