-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Le 25/03/12 19:49, meg ford a écrit : > I did get liblarch through git, but I had to install liblarch_gtk > separately. Why is that?
If you use trunk version of GTG, you should also use trunk version of liblarch (which contains liblarch_gtk). Forget about packages and setup.py or anything. Just launch GTG trunk from within the folder with ./gtg and but the liblarch folder on the same level. (it looks like liblarch is packaged in Fedora but without liblarch_gtk, that may be the root of your problem) > On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Lionel Dricot <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > I'm very surprized because if you launch gtg without liblarch, it > should give you the command line to type to get liblarch. (git > branch) > > > > Le 25/03/12 19:25, Bertrand Rousseau a écrit : >> I guess this should be reported. Izidor, Ploum, should this be >> reported in github[1]? > >> [1] https://github.com/liblarch/liblarch > >> On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 8:03 AM, meg ford <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> >> wrote: >>> It's a little hard to get trunk up and running in Fedora, >>> since there are no liblarch_gtk.rmp packages, and the readme >>> doesn't explain that you need to use python setup.py install to >>> install the liblarch dependencies. Maybe someone could document >>> how to add the dependencies for Fedora at some point. >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 9:50 AM, meg ford <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I fixed this, or at least it runs tests now. >>>> >>>> Meg >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 7:35 PM, meg ford <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I would like to ask a question (I also already asked >>>>> Izidor this via email, but in case this is a better place >>>>> to ask, here it is: >>>>> >>>>> I want to go ahead and fix a bug. I have the bzr for gtg, >>>>> and the tarball for liblarch on the same level in my >>>>> directory as gtg. But I get an error when I try to:[meg@meg >>>>> trunk]$ ./gtg Traceback (most recent call last): File >>>>> "./gtg", line 103, in <module> import GTG.gtg File >>>>> "/home/meg/gtg/trunk/GTG/gtg.py", line 58, in <module> >>>>> from GTG.gtk.manager import Manager File >>>>> "/home/meg/gtg/trunk/GTG/gtk/manager.py", line 34, in >>>>> <module> from GTG.gtk.browser.browser import TaskBrowser >>>>> File "/home/meg/gtg/trunk/GTG/gtk/browser/browser.py", line >>>>> 44, in <module> from GTG.gtk.browser.treeview_factory >>>>> import TreeviewFactory File >>>>> "/home/meg/gtg/trunk/GTG/gtk/browser/treeview_factory.py", >>>>> line 30, in <module> from liblarch_gtk import TreeView >>>>> ImportError: No module named liblarch_gtk >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have liblarch on the same level in my directory as gtg. >>>>> How do I resolve the error? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, Meg >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2012/3/23 Bertrand Rousseau <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd like to make a comment about this thread. It is >>>>>> actually more about the redesign effort in general than >>>>>> the actual mockup proposal. I'm changing the subject as >>>>>> such, so that we can split the discussions. >>>>>> >>>>>> (Btw, Alex, I really like the mockups you proposed. >>>>>> They're great, and they make me want to use this GTG. ;-) >>>>>> ) >>>>>> >>>>>> I think Meg has raised a very important point, and I'd >>>>>> like to insist on it to make sure that it doesn't get >>>>>> unnoticed: mockuping is awesome, but we *must* also work >>>>>> with other tools like use cases, wireframes, etc. (I >>>>>> think Meg also mentioned flowcharts, with which I'm not >>>>>> familiar with). Moreover, as discussed on the IRC >>>>>> channel, since we contemplate the idea of redesigning and >>>>>> thus partly redefining GTG, we *must* also try to define >>>>>> clearly what we think GTG is, what are the goals of the >>>>>> project, etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> Indeed, historically, GTG has been built without those, >>>>>> and at this point of its life, I think it has become >>>>>> apparent that this gap should be filled. Indeed, we often >>>>>> speak about GTG's features or UI elements, but we >>>>>> increasingly lack the "big picture". That was fine when >>>>>> GTG was young and targeted a limited number of features. >>>>>> But now GTG is more than three year old (can you believe >>>>>> that??), and it has become very ambitious (go see our >>>>>> wishlist if you don't believe me!). >>>>>> >>>>>> An application's reason to be is to solve issues, >>>>>> primary needs. Stuffs like "I need to know what I'm >>>>>> supposed to do when I have free time at home"... (while >>>>>> "I'd like to define 3 different tags to sort my tasks" is >>>>>> a *derived* need.) >>>>>> >>>>>> I have the feeling that we very often talk about derived >>>>>> needs. I'm growing kind of sure that we sometimes cannot >>>>>> even say if the proposed solution for that derived need >>>>>> will actual satisfy correctly a primary need at all, >>>>>> that we looked at the problem with "in the grand schemes >>>>>> of things", and not too focused on this particular >>>>>> issue. >>>>>> >>>>>> We should thus take the time to define correctly what >>>>>> are the primary *needs* we want GTG to provide a solution >>>>>> for, so that we can safely derive the solutions we will >>>>>> put into place to satisfy those needs, and still be able >>>>>> to trace its rationale back to the "big picture". >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, that's exactly what goal definitions are useful >>>>>> for. So that's where we should start. I actually offered >>>>>> myself to bootstrap this by writing down some kind of >>>>>> 'gtg manifesto'. I will try to do so in the next coming >>>>>> days, and post a draft on the wiki. [note: By the time >>>>>> I'm writing this, Lionel has actually started the work >>>>>> (kudos, ploum!): https://live.gnome.org/gtg/manifesto >>>>>> I'll join and contribute asap] >>>>>> >>>>>> But that's not all: to make sure we build up good >>>>>> solutions, the process consists in decomposing the big >>>>>> problems in more specific issues for which we can design >>>>>> solutions. However to make sure a solution is good, one >>>>>> needs tools that provide sufficient analytical power to >>>>>> evaluate the fitness of a particular situation. That's >>>>>> exactly what tools like use cases, etc. are made for! >>>>>> They provide each a certain view on an issue, and allow >>>>>> to analyze the outcome of a solution in a (more) >>>>>> objective manner. They allow to construct objective >>>>>> advice on which solution is the best. >>>>>> >>>>>> So that's why we should also start to contribute on that >>>>>> part. I definitely think goal definitions and better >>>>>> analytical tools should be cornerstones of the ongoing >>>>>> redesign effort. >>>>>> >>>>>> I will personally try to find some time to contribute to >>>>>> those. I also really hope that we will get a GSoC that >>>>>> will also help us to contribute useful resources in this >>>>>> domain. I would also really like anybody interested in >>>>>> GTG's design and redesign to also consider to contribute >>>>>> with this. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ok, that's it! Thanks for reading me all the way to >>>>>> here, it's been (again) longer than expected! (please >>>>>> bear with me) >>>>>> >>>>>> Bertrand >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> This the kind of thing that actually allows one to >>>>>> decide if buttons should be placed on the right or the >>>>>> left, if tasks should be ordered or not, if there should >>>>>> any difference between plugins or backends, etc. >>>>>> 2012/3/23 Izidor Matušov <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>>: >>>>>>> Hi Alex and other GTG contributors, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> sorry for the late answer, many things are going on and >>>>>>> I am piled in my e-mail. I love your mockups and I find >>>>>>> it awesome. In this e-mail I would to raise some >>>>>>> details which weren't discussed so far. Please, don't >>>>>>> take it as nitpicking :-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *General Layout:* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Layout contains the Primary Toolbar (1), which >>>>>>>> holds the 'new task' button and a View Switcher. I >>>>>>>> dont know if the Checkmark Selector (on the right >>>>>>>> side) is really necessary, the space could also be >>>>>>>> used for buttons which allow to toggle between >>>>>>>> different views. On the left you can see the >>>>>>>> Tag-Sidebar (2) and on the bottom you can find the >>>>>>>> plugin toolbar (3), which holds all additional >>>>>>>> elements required by plugins. The plugin toolbar is >>>>>>>> only visible, if there are any plugins enabled. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think view switcher should have these options: * >>>>>>> active tasks - tasks that are shown in the current GTG >>>>>>> window * next action / Work View - tasks that: * don't >>>>>>> have any active subtasks * don't have start date or >>>>>>> have start date in past * are not marked to be due >>>>>>> Someday * don't have assigned any tag which is hidden >>>>>>> in workview >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * in other words, tasks that I can work on at the >>>>>>> moment * Tasks without tags -> something like Inbox * >>>>>>> closed tasks - done + dismissed tasks * all tasks -- >>>>>>> all tasks that are stored in GTG >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Those modes would satisfy the needs of this bug >>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/gtg/+bug/630477 - make user >>>>>>> aware about "special modes" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *************************** >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A new concept in the latest GTG is backends. You can >>>>>>> synchronize your tasks with services like Google >>>>>>> Tasks, Remember the Milk. Those services requires >>>>>>> authentication in the browser (most of them). The >>>>>>> current workflow is: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Open Edit->Backends and add new backends - Click on >>>>>>> Allow syncing - In the task browser gtk.InfoBar is >>>>>>> shown (see 01.png) and furter action is required like >>>>>>> entring pincode (see 02.png) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The process is quite cumbersome. Maybe authentication >>>>>>> should be part of add backend dialog and not clutter >>>>>>> browser interface. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nevertheless we need some form of communication from >>>>>>> backends to user, mostly about errors: * a service >>>>>>> require new authentication like revoked permission * >>>>>>> backend was disabled because of lack of network * >>>>>>> backend was disabled because other programs does not >>>>>>> response, e.g. Gnote see >>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/gtg/+bug/932877 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is it okay to show gtk.Infobar with the error message >>>>>>> and a single button which dismiss the InfoBar and open >>>>>>> that backend's settings? Should be those messages >>>>>>> stackable (in case of failing multiple backends show >>>>>>> all warning at once) or show just single one, dimiss it >>>>>>> and show another one? What is GNOME policy for that? >>>>>>> Could you create a mockup for that? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Sidebar:* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think the Sidebar should be enabled by default, >>>>>>>> since it's a very powerful feature and there is >>>>>>>> enough horizontal space to display it. I also >>>>>>>> increased the size of the items in the sidebar to >>>>>>>> 28px, which is the recomended minimum size of >>>>>>>> touchable buttons stated by the Noika Developers >>>>>>>> Guide. Google also uses this size for sidebar entrys >>>>>>>> in the new Google Mail layout. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In the current GTG, the sidebar is hidden by default >>>>>>> to give look of very simple UI on startup. It is >>>>>>> advised to turn it off in the initial tasks tutorial. >>>>>>> However, I haven't seen anybody to use GTG without it >>>>>>> because it is very powerful also for newbies. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I vote for making sidebar the default par of UI and >>>>>>> getting rid of option to turn it off. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ********************* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> GTG allows you to stack tags. You can have >>>>>>> hierarchical tags: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> @Work - @project1 - @project2 @School - @courseA - >>>>>>> @courseB >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Could you create a mockup of such an advance usage? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ******************** >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Get rid of "All tasks" and "Task without tags" (they >>>>>>> should be shown in special view). In the sidebar >>>>>>> should be shown only tags and smart tags a.k.a saved >>>>>>> searches (read later). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There was a request for allowing to select multiple >>>>>>> tags and creating a context, e.g. I select @call and >>>>>>> @work to see all work-releated calls. If no tags are >>>>>>> selected, all tasks are shown. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The question is if we want to implement intersection >>>>>>> or union of tags. After having a jabber chat with >>>>>>> Ploum, we figured out it is hard to choose which way to >>>>>>> go. In each way, we would like to have multiple >>>>>>> selection in UI. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ********************* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I can't see the icon assigned to @work. Is it smaller >>>>>>> when it is shown next to the text title? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ********************* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I love your mockup of tag editor! There is a request >>>>>>> to create permanent tags (shown although no task is >>>>>>> assigned to it). Having another checkbox wouldn't be a >>>>>>> problem. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ** * Tasks:* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm struggling with the design of the tasks since i >>>>>>>> began working on the GUI, so please don't consider >>>>>>>> this anything but far from completed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Although iOS nor Android or any other >>>>>>>> touch-optimized OS seem to use tree views, i think we >>>>>>>> should stick to it, since they are great for >>>>>>>> visualizing hierarchy. I'm not completely satisfied >>>>>>>> with the design of the tasks, so if you have any >>>>>>>> ideas how to improve the visual design of the tasks, >>>>>>>> please feel free to tell me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ploum asked: >>>>>>>> Now, playing devil's advocate, I want to point out >>>>>>>> that each task take a lot more room than with the >>>>>>>> current GTG version. It means that you can display >>>>>>>> only half or the third number of tasks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is this something acceptable or should we have a >>>>>>>> "thin mode"? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In my opinion, it would be feature of GTG. I have the >>>>>>> GTG browser window of a normal size for my laptop >>>>>>> (920x591) and I can put there about 20 tasks. (See >>>>>>> 04.png) When I do my daily planing, I check several >>>>>>> times how my schedule looks like. Unconsciously I end >>>>>>> up with the full window of tasks because adding one >>>>>>> more task is just about few pixels. When I constrain it >>>>>>> consciously, it feels like I underestimate myself: Look >>>>>>> fool, you have only the half window to do today, you >>>>>>> have enough time to check news again... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> GTG could display about 6-8 tasks in the same window. >>>>>>> Given "rule 7 +-2", humans (at least I) have problems >>>>>>> with dealing many items at the same time. We would >>>>>>> force the user to categorize tasks into smaller chunks >>>>>>> (or to store less tasks). I personally believe that >>>>>>> GTG's (and other ToDO lists) core feature is filtering: >>>>>>> show me only the relevant tasks I can work on given the >>>>>>> context. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ********************************* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There was proposed feature to group tasks by due date: >>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/gtg/+bug/340022 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> IMHO it is not quite possible to do with the list of >>>>>>> hierarchical subtasks: I could have a task with one >>>>>>> subtask due today and another subtask due tomorrow. >>>>>>> Should I put the whole subtask to today chunk or >>>>>>> tomorrow chunk? Should I split those subtasks although >>>>>>> they belong to the single task? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Quick-Add/Search Bar:* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Gnome HIGs have very strict requirements >>>>>>>> regarding the search (see >>>>>>>> https://live.gnome.org/Design/HIG/Search. To quote >>>>>>>> the HIG: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Typically, the search entry field should be located >>>>>>>> out of view, at the top of the list or grid content >>>>>>>> area. The search field can be accessed in three ways: >>>>>>>> - Scrolling the content up when it is at its >>>>>>>> apparent upper limit. - Using the standard search >>>>>>>> keyboard shortcuts - Ctrl+F or Ctrl+S - Typing when a >>>>>>>> text input field is not focused - this text should >>>>>>>> be automatically entered into the search field" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If we follow the Guidelines, we have to abandon the >>>>>>>> search functionality from the quick-add toolbar. The >>>>>>>> current idea is to get completly rid of the >>>>>>>> quick-entry text input filed and show the user a >>>>>>>> empty task, which can be filled out, instead. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In GTG 0.2.9 there was added concept of searches. You >>>>>>> can search by entering a query in a simple query >>>>>>> language. Look at the comment there: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gtg/gtg/trunk/view/head:/GTG/core/search.py > > <http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Egtg/gtg/trunk/view/head:/GTG/core/search.py> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > Joao worked on Search dialog where you could set it up from UI. In > the >>>>>>> end of summer we came with the idea of "Awesome bar" >>>>>>> where you just write your query. As you know, we are >>>>>>> going to get rid of "Awesome bar" and therefore the >>>>>>> question is if we would like to have a complicated >>>>>>> dialog with many options or users enter just a query. >>>>>>> Query might be more geeky solution but on the other >>>>>>> side: - it would provide cleaner interface - most user >>>>>>> would use it only to find tasks with certain words or >>>>>>> tags - only a fraction of users would need special >>>>>>> operators >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I personally see the clean, Google's searchbar >>>>>>> interface :-) I don't know about any GNOME application >>>>>>> which would provide advanced search feature besides >>>>>>> e-mail clients like Evolution or Thunderbird (their >>>>>>> interface is very clumsy :-( >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We allowed to create smart tags a.k.a. saved searches. >>>>>>> You write complex search queries like '@gtg !before >>>>>>> 2011-05-01 !not "feature request"', it would be saved >>>>>>> into sidebar and you can give a name to it, color, >>>>>>> etc. It is like a normal tag but you can specify a >>>>>>> query for it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One of ideas was to automatically save every search. >>>>>>> User can rename a search, update query or delete it. We >>>>>>> could purge those searches automatically (remember just >>>>>>> last 5; forget them after restart; - of course, you >>>>>>> could pin them to make them permanent like it is in >>>>>>> tomboy's notification area) or let user to delete them >>>>>>> manually. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Searches are quite new concept. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would propose Search dialog to be: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------- | >>>>>>> ____________________________ | | Query: >>>>>>> |____________________________| help | | >>>>>>> _________________ | | ☑ save it as smart tag >>>>>>> |_________________| | | -------- | | >>>>>>> | Search | | | -------- >>>>>>> | ----------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Where help would be a link/would open documentation of >>>>>>> search query. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If user choose to save the tag, it would be shown in >>>>>>> the sidebar in the same way as in the current GTG (see >>>>>>> 03.png) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * Opening & editing tasks:* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I haven't done a mockup of how tasks should be >>>>>>>> edited yet, but my idea was to get rid of the >>>>>>>> 'one-window-per-task' appraoch wich works great on >>>>>>>> the desktop, but could cause some problems on small >>>>>>>> touchscreen devices. I think it would be nice, if >>>>>>>> GTG would handle tasks, like other Gnome 3 core apps >>>>>>>> handle files (See >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > https://live.gnome.org/Design/HIG?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=index2.png > > <https://live.gnome.org/Design/HIG?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=index2.png> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > <https://live.gnome.org/Design/HIG?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=index2.png > > <https://live.gnome.org/Design/HIG?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=index2.png>>). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I agree that editing only one task at the time could >>>>>>> be better. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think the overall layout of the current editor >>>>>>> embedded in the main window would be okay. In the top >>>>>>> toolbar there could be buttons: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - back (show previous open task or task browser) - go >>>>>>> to the parent task -------------------- - mark as done >>>>>>> - mark as dismissed - delete ---------------- - insert >>>>>>> tag - insert subtask ------------------ - <plugin >>>>>>> buttons like Hamster - start tracking this task> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On the bottom toolbar: - start date widget - due date >>>>>>> widget - text information: how many days are left >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In the context many would be those options: - spell >>>>>>> checking - open link ( if clicked on link ) - basic >>>>>>> rich text operations: make text bold/italic - insert >>>>>>> tag - insert subtask >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **************************************************** >>>>>>> >>>>>>> While writing this e-mail, I got your other e-mail. >>>>>>> Most questions are answered above. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - should we stick with the 'empty-task-approach? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think that the empty-task at the top should be just >>>>>>> one line Entry widget. If you have a complex widget >>>>>>> like in your last mockup, it doesn't make any sense. >>>>>>> You can't fill it just from keyboard easily and you >>>>>>> have to use mouse or <tab> button. It means you degrade >>>>>>> to a form on very small place. The main purpose of >>>>>>> QuickAdd toolbar is to quickly and easily add many task >>>>>>> (optimally with their structure) from keyboard. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - what do you think of the task design? (3) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I prefer the style from this mockup: >>>>>>> http://i.imgur.com/X3zB5.png >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I love the title idea form that mockup! The title >>>>>>> could help users to understand concepts of filters (you >>>>>>> seen text description of what you see). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ******************************************************** >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That's pretty much it. Looking forward to your answers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Izidor >>>>>>> >>>>>>> P.S: What software do you use to create those mockups? >>>>>>> Gimp, Inkscape with some plugins or something else? 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