Actually, I did get some replies, privately to me, that's why you didn't see them.
1. I missed GSoC this time. I didn't have enough time to contribute to projects and find ideas. And until next year there's a lot of time... I'll try in 2014 :) 2. Freelancing requires knowledge. I tried it, but I can't find anything for which I don't need to learn many new things. Too many job require web technologies and many things I don't know. 3. Putting a website and maintaining it is a lot of work, and I don't know much about web and server tools. The best I can do with my little spare time is start a simple website using an easy CMS, and even then, I don't have any visible products to show off. I do work as fast as I can to complete the first version of my project, which will fully build and run with a minimal set of features. 4. My code is fine, the problem is that it's not worth much because you can't build and run it yet. 5. I already work in the university. But I teach math and physics, I don't work on software. And until yesterday I didn't even know what a sysadmin is. You see, there are lots of part-time jobs for students, but they all are related to websites: sysadmin, PHP/Javascript/HTML/CSS, stuff like that. I'm not a geek. I don't know THAT much. I know C++ and I can write all kinds of desktop apps using it. The problem is that all the C++ jobs require you to be an engineer with +3 years experience. Nobody's giving students a C++ coding job... unfortunately. But thanks for the ideas :) The biggest problem, for all of us actually, is that we need to do what people pay us for, not what we really want to do. For example, I'm very interested in Semantic Desktop. The plan for my app involves both task and project management like no other free-software app dies currently, and unique semantic-desktop capabilities. It's all very interesting and I'm excited about it, but who's gonna pay me for working on it? I don't need the millions paid to engineers, I just want to work on what I enjoy and succeed at. But those rare packages related, such as Tracker and Zeitgeist - who develops them? WHRERE are they developed? Somewhere in Europe, far far away from where I live. RedHat happens to have a sub-company here in Israel, but they work on virtualization and Cloud tech and other things I don't care about (and I hate the concept of Cloud computing, which is an excuse to store user data online and abuse it). I'll try to contribute to free software and get more experience, but ironically, it will give me less time to work on my own project, less time for studying... and the worst part, I won't get paid. Don't get me wrong, I do want to contribute and I have lots of ideas and plans, and lots of projects I'll happily participate in (Gnome, Trisquel...), but who's gonna pay for my food and rent while I do that? Enough with that, there's lots of work to do! :) On ב', 2013-05-06 at 12:27 +0530, Sindhu S wrote: > Hello, > > > This is not the forum to discuss career help and am surprised why > nobody has replied to this ask for help yet. That said, I genuinely > feel for you and want you to read the following (in case you haven't > considered them already): > > > 1. Participating in GSoC (Google Summer of Code) will give a > substantial amount of experience you would need for a job as well it > pays over the summer (very handsomely enough to cover your student > loans and some extent of living too). Am sorry at the point of writing > this the deadline for this year's GSoC but do approach your interested > organization to see if they can make an exception.It's not impossible. > I'd say go for it! > > > 2. Have you considered freelancing? There are plenty of freelancing > jobs out there which pay by the hour I think. You could start at > http://www.rent-acoder.com/ > > > 3. The beauty of computer applications field is that unlike others one > doesn't really need a degree certificate to prove one's skills. Your > code and projects should speak for you. Have you considered putting up > a website of your own where you have displayed your previous and > current work (even if in progress)? You should also mention you are > available for hire. You could try Github.com for code hosting. > > > 4. Advertise the code you have written, either complete it quickly by > giving it a command line interface or a GUI one and put it up! tell > everyone (via twitter) and ask for advice on how to better it. Also > look for jobs on hasgeek.com > > > 5. See if you can work part time at your university, you'd likely get > a sys admin's job but that's good right? > > > Is there anything I missed? :) Let me know and I hope this helps! > > > Good luck! > > > -Sindhu > > http://live.gnome.org/sindhus > > > > On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 11:14 PM, אנטולי קרסנר <tomback...@gmail.com> > wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I'm looking for advice on making a living from working on Free > Software. > > I already read articles, send my CV to various companies, but > I found > nothing. So I decided to ask here, hoping this question isn't > too > inappropriate for this list. > > I'm a software engineering student in first year (out of 4), > from > Israel. > I've been coding in C++ using GNU and Gnome technologies, and > I'm > familiar with the GTK/gtkmm, libxml++, etc. I do need to > refresh my > knowledge of GObject, but certainly I can write code and > contribute to > existing projects (or work on my own project, which I've been > doing for > the past 9 months). > > The problem is that I need to make a living somehow. Not just > as a > student, but also later, as an engineer. I don't need much, > just make a > living and do what I believe in: work on free software and > promote > software freedom. > > In Israel nobody cares about free software (they call it open > source, > and it's just a way to save money), so after failing to find > such a job > here, I sent CV to companies in Europe. I realize I'm a > student, I have > no formal coding education, I have no proven experience (none > of my code > has reached the stage an initial version can compile, yet) but > source > files themselves... but I do want to contribute. The only > reason I don't > work on Gnome projects is that my free time is spent working > on my own > project, which will hopefully be a useful desktop app when > it's ready > (probably until the end of the summer). > > I realize all that, but I don't want to give up and accept the > fact I > can't do anything for free software. I do have skills, I do > have > knowledge. My current project has 7000 lines of code (not much > for a > serious project, I know, but it's a lot for me as a student > working > alone) written by myself from scratch, using GNU Build System, > gtkmm, > libxml++, libsigc++. > > Isn't there a way I can make a living with the skills I do > have? I do > want to help, and I don't need much in return, I just want to > make a > living. To pay my rent, to pay for my food... I'm sure my > skills can be > useful to someone. With a free software project. > > If you can help me or give advice, I'll be thankful. > > - AAnatoly Krasner > > _______________________________________________ > gtk-list mailing list > gtk-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list > > _______________________________________________ gtk-list mailing list gtk-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list
