Thanks to Owen, for his suggestion about the option menu truncation. He basically said the same as I had heard from others before, with one extra thing added in - not only do they have to be created and packed in correctly, with adding the menu to the option menu AFTER creating all of the elements, but you have to show ALL of the elements before the menu gets packed into the option menu, otherwise it doesn't work. I was doing everything right except that. Usually I just wait until the end of the function and call gtk_widget_show_all(topwindow) and so on to get everything to show, but you apparently have to show the individual items in the option menu before the actual option menu. I would think this counts as a gotcha but I'm just glad its fixed. Thanks again David http://opop.nols.com/ Free Software Development Der Horizont vieler Menschen ist ein Kreis mit Radius Null -- und das nennen sie ihren Standpunkt. -- To unsubscribe: mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null