--- Chris Bartak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Juan, > > It may be a bit off-topic for this group, but It's an interesting topic > anyway. > > If you want to use one language for desktop apps, service/daemon apps, web > apps, and mobile apps, I guess the answer is Java. That said, I don't > believe there is a need to use any one language for everything. I love Perl, > and use it at every opportunity. I use it for developing web apps, desktop > GUIs (thanks to the XS/Gtk work done by our friends here), doing UNIX system > scripting (I don't have as good a grasp on BASH as I do Perl when it comes > to complicated scripts), data conversions, text file parsing, and so on. It > is a beautiful language, and performs well, while giving you the advantages > of a scripted language, and having a clean, elegant syntax. > > Nonetheless, I use other languages, where applicable. Sometimes I do a bit > of Ruby, or PHP, or C, or if I have to, Java. I'd say use Perl when that's a > good option, which is most of the time (at least for me). If I wanted to > develop an app for a mobile device, I'd use Java, since the wide majority of > those devices use Java. If I wanted to develop a Gtk app, I'd use Perl or C. > If it was a web app I was after, likely Perl or PHP (or Java, if my arm was > twisted), or Ruby if it was part of a Rails project. > > I don't think there's a need to choose "the one true language". Java aimed > to be the ultimately ubiquitous language, and while it accomplished that > goal to some degree (in that it will run on all sorts of devices), it's > never been the best solution for everything. > > If you're interested in Perl, and like it (as you seem to), I'd say you > should stick with it. If you need to learn Python or Java to develop for > this device or that, you'll just have an opportunity to add one more tool to > your belt. > > That's maybe not a very technical response, but it's my opinion anyway. And > I agree with Sergei that Ruby is a better choice for the ultimate OOP > experience than Python. > > Cheers, > Chris > > > > > > On Jan 27, 2008 3:46 PM, Sergei Steshenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > --- Juan José 'Peco' San Martín <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I know this is not the right place to write this but... > > > > > > I'm afraid of Perl. I love it, I think it's a wonderful language and > > > what to say about CPAN... is uncomparable!. > > > > > > But today, if you want to develop for the the Nokia Smartphones > > > (Symbian), or for the Nintendo DS, or for large systems or for > > > GNOME/GTK, etc... the commom language seems to be Python. > > > > > > Perl6 is comming but may be it's too late. > > > > > > Really sorry for this FUD if somebody thinks that it's what is. :-/ > > > > > > Thoughts are welcome. > > > > > > Peco > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > gtk-perl-list mailing list > > > gtk-perl-list@gnome.org > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-perl-list > > > > > > > Python, AFAIK, does not compare to Perl, and not in favor of Python. > > > > AFAIK, there are no closures in Python, and scoping is poor. > > > > A nice article by Larry Wall: "Programming is Hard, Let's Go Scripting..." > > -> > > > > http://www.perl.com/lpt/a/997 > > . > > > > If you're a fan of OOP, it has a pointer to "Moose" module: > > > > > http://search.cpan.org/~stevan/Moose-0.36/lib/Moose.pm<http://search.cpan.org/%7Estevan/Moose-0.36/lib/Moose.pm> > > > > - I am not that crazy about OOP, but this module can be a good argument > > dealing with people who are. > > > > Also, AFAIK, Python does not have anonymous import, which Perl has, and > > this is my most favorite Perl feature. > > > > I think the module supercedes OOP capabilities of Python, and maybe even > > Ruby. > > > > By the way, Ruby is a much cleaner than Python language, so I really do > > not > > understand the hype around Python. > > > > Perl is a really powerful and efficient language, and good programmers can > > write really clean code in it. > > > > Regards, > > Sergei. > > > > Applications From Scratch: http://appsfromscratch.berlios.de/ > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > _______________________________________________ > > gtk-perl-list mailing list > > gtk-perl-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-perl-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > gtk-perl-list mailing list > gtk-perl-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-perl-list >
An interesting site on language comparison: http://www.jvoegele.com/software/langcomp.html . By the way, I'd say there are some false claims WRT Perl, i.e. I think, for example, that methods can be overloaded though the site claims they can't. I myself do consider extending my languages "collection", but more in the direction of OCaml and maybe Haskell. OCaml has gtk+ bindings and a library allowing to run CPAN modules :-). But one has to naturally ripen to start using functional languages which I think I have. OCaml has both functional and imperative part, i.e. it's not total departure from imperative programming. What else ? Erlang - taking into account my prolonged and intimate relationship with Verilog ? Erlang is for (pseudo)parallel and distributed computations. Regards, Sergei. Applications From Scratch: http://appsfromscratch.berlios.de/ ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping _______________________________________________ gtk-perl-list mailing list gtk-perl-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-perl-list
