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There was an exhaust canister kit listed on Brian Kearny's GTS page, carbon
fiber from Smith Brothers. Has anybody tried that ???? I do not want to go
buy it if there are going to be major problems, rather I want a bolt on.
Also, I prefer to stay with the basic config of the engine (EFI etc.).
However, how good are the heads ? Can some serious power be found in
cleaning up the heads ? I know the 5 valve head is pretty sophisticated,
but with casting flash, rough port walls etc., can any power be found there
? Some bikes come from the factory with minor head work, others are just
raw with only the machining for the valves and seats. Older big bore
Ninja's had hand-done head work from the factory, according to an old
article I read.
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From: Kevin Hawkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 8:16 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: RE: Big bore kit
I like the power on my GTS just fine. Wouldn't want to change a thing!
Rheostatic power with good mid-range. Now, if you wanted to try some things
you would first have to open up the intake by getting rid of the airbox and
mounting K&N pods. To accomodate the new air intake you could increase the
injector duration by adjusting the pots on the EFI module closer towards 5
o'clock. Now that you've got the intake side opened up you'd need to replace
the restrictive exhause canister. What improvements this yields is anybody's
guess.
Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.geocities.com/~raddboy
Y2K Kawasaki ZRX1100 // '93 Yamaha GTS1000
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Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 7:11 PM
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Well, I am personally NOT looking to reinvent the wheel. Either somebody
has kits to do it that have already been proven, or I do not do it. I
personally do not have the time to experiment on power mods. Kevin, where
are you ??? We need some feedback !!
-----Original Message-----
From: Louis Tweed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 5:57 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Re: Big bore kit
Well now, this subject is very open. Power is determined by amount of
air/fuel
mixture and how efficiently it is burned. My first step would be to explore
the
limits of the EFI system. How much fuel can it efficiently handle, how much
air? Then the exhaust would be explored. Finally internal engine mods. I
wouldn't open the engine until the intake/exhaust systems were analyzed. If
the
intake is doing all it can now it won't make much difference what jugs you
stick
on the engine (assuming they are burning at max efficiency now.)
Louis
"Crisler, Jon" wrote:
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> I too am looking for ways to make more power on the GTS. If anybody has
any
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Well, I am personally NOT looking to reinvent the =
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proven, or I do not do it. I personally do not have the time to =
experiment on power mods. Kevin, where are you ??? We need =
some feedback !!</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Louis Tweed [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>]</FON=
T>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 5:57 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Multiple recipients of list</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Re: Big bore kit</FONT>
</P>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Well now, this subject is very open. Power is =
determined by amount of air/fuel</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>mixture and how efficiently it is burned. My =
first step would be to explore the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>limits of the EFI system. How much fuel can it =
efficiently handle, how much</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>air? Then the exhaust would be explored. =
Finally internal engine mods. I</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>wouldn't open the engine until the intake/exhaust =
systems were analyzed. If the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>intake is doing all it can now it won't make much =
difference what jugs you stick</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>on the engine (assuming they are burning at max =
efficiency now.)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Louis</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>There was an exhaust canister kit listed on Brian =
Kearny's GTS page, carbon fiber from Smith Brothers. Has anybody =
tried that ???? I do not want to go buy it if there are going to =
be major problems, rather I want a bolt on.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Also, I prefer to stay with the basic config of the =
engine (EFI etc.). However, how good are the heads ? Can =
some serious power be found in cleaning up the heads ? I know the =
5 valve head is pretty sophisticated, but with casting flash, rough =
port walls etc., can any power be found there ? Some bikes come =
from the factory with minor head work, others are just raw with only =
the machining for the valves and seats. Older big bore Ninja's =
had hand-done head work from the factory, according to an old article I =
read.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Kevin Hawkins [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mailto:Kevin.Hawkins=
@novatech-sciences.com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 8:16 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Multiple recipients of list</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: RE: Big bore kit</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I like the power on my GTS just fine. Wouldn't want =
to change a thing!</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Rheostatic power with good mid-range. Now, if you =
wanted to try some things</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>you would first have to open up the intake by =
getting rid of the airbox and</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>mounting K&N pods. To accomodate the new air =
intake you could increase the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>injector duration by adjusting the pots on the EFI =
module closer towards 5</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>o'clock. Now that you've got the intake side opened =
up you'd need to replace</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>the restrictive exhause canister. What improvements =
this yields is anybody's</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>guess.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2><A HREF=3D"http://www.geocities.com/~raddboy" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.geocities.com/~raddboy</A></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Y2K Kawasaki ZRX1100 // '93 Yamaha GTS1000</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Crisler, Jon [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>]</FON=
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 7:11 PM</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: RE: Big bore kit</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Well, I am personally NOT looking to reinvent the =
wheel. Either somebody</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>has kits to do it that have already been proven, or =
I do not do it. I</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>personally do not have the time to experiment on =
power mods. Kevin, where</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>are you ??? We need some feedback !!</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Louis Tweed [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>]</FON=
T>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 5:57 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Multiple recipients of list</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Re: Big bore kit</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Well now, this subject is very open. Power is =
determined by amount of</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>air/fuel</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>mixture and how efficiently it is burned. My =
first step would be to explore</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>limits of the EFI system. How much fuel can it =
efficiently handle, how much</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>air? Then the exhaust would be explored. =
Finally internal engine mods. I</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>wouldn't open the engine until the intake/exhaust =
systems were analyzed. If</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>intake is doing all it can now it won't make much =
difference what jugs you</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>stick</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>on the engine (assuming they are burning at max =
efficiency now.)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Louis</FONT>
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[<A =3D</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2><BR><FONT SIZE=3D3D2>Subject: Re: Big =
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2><P><FONT SIZE=3D3D2>Well now, this =
subject is very open. Power is =3D</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>determined by amount of air/fuel</FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2><BR><FONT SIZE=3D3D2>mixture and how =
efficiently it is burned.&nbsp; My =3D</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>first step would be to explore =
the</FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2><BR><FONT SIZE=3D3D2>limits of the EFI =
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engine until the intake/exhaust =3D</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>systems were analyzed.&nbsp; If =
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2><BR><FONT SIZE=3D3D2>intake is doing all =
it can now it won't make much =3D</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>difference what jugs you stick</FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2><BR><FONT SIZE=3D3D2>on the engine =
(assuming they are burning at max =3D</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2><BR><FONT =
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