----- Original Message ----- From: Automatic digest processor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Recipients of GTS-1000 digests <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 12:02 AM Subject: GTS-1000 Digest - 19 May 2001 to 20 May 2001 (#2001-152) > There are 10 messages totalling 374 lines in this issue. > > Topics of the day: > > 1. Servicing Issues (3) > 2. Goldendale attendance update > 3. Servicing Issues & nikon scanner > 4. Rare and Unique GTS....and George's rant > 5. Events...(FLUFF NOW) > 6. Mez4 (2) > 7. Rare and Unique > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 08:48:47 +0100 > From: Barry Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Servicing Issues > > Since joining this list I've been busy trying to form opinions on the GTS. > Based on what I've heard I'm very enthusiastic. I hope to get my leg over > one this coming week, then I think all will become apparent. > > A couple of issues have sprung to mind though. How often is the front > suspension assembly likely to need work and how easy is this to do ? I > checked out the diagrams at:- > http://216.37.204.202/Yamaha_OEM/YamahaMC.asp?Type=13&A=91&B=13 and it seems > fairly straight forward, though some items a little 'pricey'. > > Obviously too, from a maintenance point of view, problems with the EFI would > not be welcome. Though I'm a reasonable mechanic, this doesn't extend to > integrated circuit fault finding ! I've not seen much mention of this being > an issue, but wondered what experiences people have had. > > Finally, I checked out my local Yamaha dealer. It's one of those rare family > businesses of three generations. The owner, when I asked of the GTS > basically said, "don't compare it with conventional forked bikes, learn to > ride the GTS". Is this a fair comment. > > Thanks in advance for all your kind help ! > > > Barry Edwards > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 07:37:05 -0700 > From: Monte Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Goldendale attendance update > > I have not called the Rivera Hotel in Biggs to cancel my reservations as > they didn't take a c/c for deposit. Its under Monte. So there should be a > room avail. > Monte > 93' (and still RED!) > > Subject: Re: Goldendale attendance update > > > > Now with some of the cancellations, does anyone have room for one more in > > their motel room? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Roger Van Santen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 9:06 PM > > Subject: Re: Goldendale attendance update > > > > > > > Dang! > > > > > > I was going to ride up to Hyder also. The town will be full of > ldriders. > > > You'll get to meet some interesting characters. Have fun and be careful > > > about getting "Hyderized". > > > > > > Roger > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 13:15:45 -0500 > From: Robert Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Servicing Issues > > > Finally, I checked out my local Yamaha dealer. It's one of those rare family > > businesses of three generations. The owner, when I asked of the GTS > > basically said, "don't compare it with conventional forked bikes, learn to > > ride the GTS". Is this a fair comment. > > translation "I don't compare it because I don't know" > > Many of us have multiple bikes. > > At parking lot speeds I find the GTS scary, compared to my KLR & Virago. > At high highway speeds, the KLR & Virago are VERY scary compared to the > GTS. > > The BETA otoh is quite happy perched stationary on a rock, like a > lizard. > > I think most of us who have had a GTS on it's side (3 for me), it's been > at speeds not in excess of 2 miles per hour. The high speed stability > is further enhanced by having a single shock absorber up front. Nothing > leaves skid marks better than when those two front forks on a regular > bike start acting like a tuning fork! > > Robert > > p.s. Anyone heard from Shawn Pearsall lately, he is conspicous by his > absence lately. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 19:26:25 +0100 > From: Barry Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Servicing Issues > > In fairness to the chap, Robert, I believe he was being sincere. I took from > what he said, that many people had bad mouthed the GTS, simply because they > refused to judge it for what it is, constantly comparing it to something it > was never meant to be. Here in the UK for instance, everything is compared > to a sports bike. 90% of the magazines are sportsbike orientated, the > writers 'assuming' everyone lives for trackdays. It's just not 'real world'. > > The slow speed manoeuvring of the GTS has been mentioned before. Is this > just due to heaviness of the steering, or something else ? I notice too that > a handlebar conversion kit is available (fitting wider bars). Is this an > attempt to address this issue ? > > Thanks for your comments. > > > Barry Edwards > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Robert Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 7:15 PM > Subject: Re: Servicing Issues > > > > > Finally, I checked out my local Yamaha dealer. It's one of those rare > family > > > businesses of three generations. The owner, when I asked of the GTS > > > basically said, "don't compare it with conventional forked bikes, learn > to > > > ride the GTS". Is this a fair comment. > > > > translation "I don't compare it because I don't know" > > > > Many of us have multiple bikes. > > > > At parking lot speeds I find the GTS scary, compared to my KLR & Virago. > > At high highway speeds, the KLR & Virago are VERY scary compared to the > > GTS. > > > > The BETA otoh is quite happy perched stationary on a rock, like a > > lizard. > > > > I think most of us who have had a GTS on it's side (3 for me), it's been > > at speeds not in excess of 2 miles per hour. The high speed stability > > is further enhanced by having a single shock absorber up front. Nothing > > leaves skid marks better than when those two front forks on a regular > > bike start acting like a tuning fork! > > > > Robert > > > > p.s. Anyone heard from Shawn Pearsall lately, he is conspicous by his > > absence lately. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 14:13:46 -0500 > From: Robert Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Servicing Issues & nikon scanner > > Barry Edwards wrote: > > 90% of the magazines are sportsbike orientated, the > > writers 'assuming' everyone lives for trackdays. It's just not 'real world'. > > The real world where I come from is weekend warrior Harley Riders with > fixed gazes. > > > > > The slow speed manoeuvring of the GTS has been mentioned before. Is this > > just due to heaviness of the steering > Yes, the 120 tire instead of 130 tire helps this a LOT. > > > I notice too that > > a handlebar conversion kit is available (fitting wider bars). Is this an > > attempt to address this issue ? > > > not totally sure > > Just finished my first scan with my new Nikon LS-4000 scanner (35mm film > scanner). It extracts a 132meg TIFF file from a 35mm negative. On my > first try I'm amazed notsomuch at the resolution, but the lack of noise > in the shadows, compared to my HP Photosmart scanner. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 15:35:12 -0500 > From: "George C. Paramithas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Rare and Unique GTS....and George's rant > > Grant, I like the way you think! > > Got back from my trip last night Huntsville - Boston - Huntsville in 7 days > 3 of which were business so....3K miles in 4 days two up on my Royal Star > and Bushtec trailer in tow sight-seeing is not bad. By no means it's iron > butt rally but not bad for an XX year old :-)). Needless to say my Star > kicked HD hinney throughout the trip, poor fellers still fail to see the > real reason we ride them which is....drum rolls please....GOOD ENGINEERING > & RELIABILITY. > > Best part of the trip -> Yamaha/Bushtec engineering, John Harvard's Brew > house, Kentucky/Tennessee rolling hills, no tickets, the sunshine on our > backs. > Worst part of the trip -> Buffalo NY & over commercializing of Niagara > Falls, northern weather/traffic. > > Next time it'll be the GTS's turn to do its duty. In the mean time all y'all > snow birds move on down south....trust me!! > > George knows of what he speaks > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "grant gall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 9:42 AM > Subject: Re: Rare and Unique GTS > > > > "I, for one, love the fact that the GTS didn't sell ... they will always > > be > > deliciously rare and unique." > > > > Very well said. > > > > I look at toys (GTS included) this way. If you know what you like and > > you think you can maintain it - buy it. I am not just speaking of parts > > either, I am thinking of mechanical aptitude as well. If you cannot > > afford the toy, you likely cannot afford to maintain it properly. Toys > > come with an attachment called disposable income. > > > > As for rarity and uniqueness, I like thing other people don't have, like > > the GTS. I built my own trailer I tow behind my Venture. I have only > > seen one similar from a distance in 13+ years. My Venture is stock > > black, not to many of those on the road. My four wheel vehicles tend to > > different as well. > > > > Does it cost more money in the long run - probably. But how many F4's, > > R1's, look-a-like cruiser bikes and Goldwings do you see every day! I > > would say, to many to count. > > > > I for one am not worried that the GTS is rare and unique. I would also > > like to have an SRX and a Vincent as well. All in good time I guess. > > > > My .02. > > > > Grant Gall > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 17:24:40 -0400 > From: "Henry S. Winokur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Events...(FLUFF NOW) > > > I thought trailers were only for Harleys. Didn't know > > you could get a GTS on a trailer. > > You can get anything on a trailer ............ > > Regards, > > Henry S. Winokur > 94 GTS1000, AMA, MRF, > Nationally Certified Riding Instructor > West Bethesda, MD > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 18:06:11 -0400 > From: "Henry S. Winokur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Mez4 > > > >It's my touring bike after all, not a canyon warrior. > > > > >Phil > > > > I like it CANYON WARRIOR , i'd change the name at the bottom of my number > > plate if we had Canyon's in the UK. > > It'd be a tough fit at 6-8 characters! > > Regards, > > Henry S. Winokur > 94 GTS1000, AMA, MRF, > Nationally Certified Riding Instructor > West Bethesda, MD > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 19:18:11 +0100 > From: Dave Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Rare and Unique > > Don't know...don't want to find out!!! > > > David > > > > Good point. Are there parts that are hard to source or just plain > v.v.expensive ? > > > Barry Edwards > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 19:19:34 +0100 > From: Dave Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Mez4 > > Nick, > > How about "Gorge Grinder" :). Your near enough to Bristol and Cheddar etc... > > > David > > > >It's my touring bike after all, not a canyon warrior. > > >Phil > > I like it CANYON WARRIOR , i'd change the name at the bottom of my number > plate if we had Canyon's in the UK. > > Nick T > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.252 / Virus Database: 125 - Release Date: 09/05/2001 > > ------------------------------ > > End of GTS-1000 Digest - 19 May 2001 to 20 May 2001 (#2001-152) > *************************************************************** >
