Progressive's the culprit here too. No accidents ever (auto or bike) but I
am guilty as charged for speeding, 2 tickets last year. Forgot all about
that detail :-))

Speed demon George

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Baglien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 7:03 AM
Subject: Insurance


> It costs me $305 a year for full coverage with $500
> deductible for 4 bikes ('96 Goldwing, '00 Super X, '93 GTS,
> and a '94 DR441) with progressive.   Progressive gives a
> multi bike discount - works great.  For just the Super X it
> was $210, for the X and the DR it was $250,  for the X, DR,
> GTS it was $270, and for all bikes $305.   I've had
> insurance on my bikes since I was 16 (20 years), I'm a
> member of AMA, and never had a cycle claim (I save my
> crashing for the dirt).  On the down side, I have been told
> by a friend that had a crash and was insured by Progressive,
> that his rates doubled, even though he didn't put in a claim
> against Progressive (the ticket did it).
>
> Sven
>
> "George C. Paramithas" wrote:
> >
> > What he said!!
> >
> > On a serious note, the GTS surging gets to be a problem when in real
tight
> > twisties with a bit of sand or gravel. I've had the pucker factor go way
> > high a time or two on 129 a.k.a. the dragon.
> >
> > BTW did anyone else notice insurance rates go higher this year? Mine
jumped
> > by $120 this renewal period (from $302 to $420 for both bikes). Now
that's
> > one hell of a % jump.
> >
> > George counting his pennies
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Brandon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 1:30 AM
> > Subject: Re: Surging curse and cure/Lets take a Pole (Thats "Poll", I
> > believe...)
> >
> > > Jim wrote:
> > > >
> > > > George, 'survey says' my GTS, 36k, no surging any altitude, from
560'
> > > > here to 14,220' in Colorado last week. I mean none at any speed.
> > > > In fact I was wondering how many of you guys have the problem
> > > > since I never have.
> > >
> > > I suppose it depends upon the definition we each have of it, and to
what
> > > degree. The one that I am the most familiar with, is the first or
second
> > > gear, low rpm, 'surge'. It shows itself as a series of 'pulses' in the
> > > motor. The variation is fairly small, maybe a few hundred rpms at
most,
> > > but it very difficult to keep the motor at a rock steady rpm at that
> > > speed.
> > >
> > > Many would not even notice it unless pointed out. Others would say it
> > > bugs the he.. out of them. Tolerance and sensitivity to those issues,
> > > (sounds like a 'pc' thing, eh?), are greater or lessor per individual.
> > >
> > > I know it exists but it so small and only at low speeds and if you use
> > > my clutch and throttle to good effect, it really has no significance.
To
> > > me. To others, it does matter. It is also entirely possible that other
> > > bikes may have an excerbated surge issue that is not typical. In that
> > > case, the problem could be rather severe and would be a pita.
> > >
> > > I 'feather' the gas and slip the clutch if I need to avoid the surge,
> > > but frankly, I don't do much parking lot speed driving as it is. So
for
> > > me, not much of an issue. I will say this however, I once got caught
on
> > > a freeway while living in California, and the freeway had to be almost
> > > completely shut down for an accident on it. After about 20 minutes of
> > > walking speed, I DID notice the surge! And it WAS bugging the fool out
> > > of me! Not to mention my hand cramping up on the clutch. Thank Ford
> > > (from "Brave New World"), that lane splitting is legal there. It was
one
> > > of the very few, rare times I took advantage of it.
> > >
> > > But I digress....
> > >
> > > I do that a lot....
> > >
> > > Brandon (forgetting what the topic was about to begin with....)
> > >
> > > Mom? Is that you?
> > >
>

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