Terry is correct, it is just an anti-drainback valve.  It will keep the
unfiltered oil in the filter.  Some are better than others, some leak a
little, some a lot, some not at all.

Most of the better filters have this valve, all of the Amsoil and Mobil-1
filters have it.

I would not change your oil checking process, just fill to that same level
as before.  At worst case, you might get 4 oz of oil too much, which is not
enough to cause any damage.

-----Original Message-----
From: Derek Baylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 8:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: K&N oil filter


Maybe it is hype, but I definately put the requisite amount of oil in my
engine, and after running it with the K&N filter installed--even after 1/2
hour of sitting--much less oil was evident in the sump.  Something different
is going on with this filter.

-Derek


----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: K&N oil filter


> I believe that check valves are very common in most filters including the
> stock one. If you look at the oil flow path and direction - from the sump
> to the  pump to the filter and then to the various engine parts like
> bearings and the top end which are all under pressure, once it lubricates
> the required parts it drains to the sump generally not under as much
> pressure from the oil pump, the topend drains mostly by gravity and does
it
> all again in a loop - All the check filter will do is prevent backflow
from
> these points through the filter and taking junk back out of the filter
into
> the sump, sort of unfiltering the oil. All the oil in the topend will
still
> drain just fine through the oil passages to the sump just like normal
> wether the engine is running or not, so there will be no problems with the
> measuring the level. If it is mentioned on the filter package or in K&N
> advertizing as a special feature it is merely advertising hype.  Hope this
> helps.
> Terry
>
>
> I just changed my oil and installed a K&N oil filter.  The filter has a
> check valve that prevents all the oil from draining out of your top end
> after the bike is shut off.  This makes terrific sense, because the oil
> (theoretically) stays up in the head to prevent damage upon
> start-up.  Right away it seemed to be working, and herein lies the
> problem:  how does one check oil level at the sight glass if all the oil
is
> stuck up in the engine?  Is anyone else on the list using these filters
and
> have a recommendation?  With the correct amount of oil in the engine, and
> after shutting down, the oil level in the sump is just a little below the
> bottom of the sight glass window.  Is this my new "full" mark?  Can anyone
> with deep engine knowledge say whether it's really an advantage (more than
> theoretically) to trap all that oil up in the engine?  I really just
> wondering if the extra $10 for the K&N filter is worth it.
>
> Strange, there was no mention of this "new oil level thing" on the K&N
> filter packaging.  Someone with slightly lower critical thinking skills
> than me (not a stretch) could easily become confused and just keep adding
> oil until the level looked right.  I'm guessing that on the GTS that would
> be at least a quart too much oil!
>
> The difference between perseverance and obstinacy is, that one often comes
> from a strong will, and the other from a strong won't.
> -Henry Ward Beecher
>
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