Summary of the GUADEC weekly meeting finished right now: We discussed local + website + keynotes
local: ldng, toniher, wingo i lluis need to coordinate more and better to get the local groups involved - I need to delegate all I still have, guadec-local is the list for this and a sucessful local meeting needs to be organized website: we have 2 critical bugs + a registration that needs to be urgently done in order to have v1.0 + the homepage is clearer now keynotes: we need to have them clear asap + the skeleton schedule should start reflecting how the guadec schedule will be like The full log: qgil: 21h Vilanova time. _Devin_, bolsh, dexem, halfline, ldng, tavon, terral, tko, toniher, vuntz and wingo are invited to the GUADEC weekly meeting qgil: those wiling to take part, please say hello or smile :) toniher: hi, I will grab a beer to my side and I will join you :) qgil: great, we can adapt the topics discussed to the active participants qgil: so we could start talking about the local organization :) qgil: did you meet last saturday? toniher: Now, we were just two... And I offered lluis my jabber account and meeting here if he wanted to talk about... toniher: :( ldng: hi qgil: hi ldng tavon: hello qgil: ok, I still have a local ToDo list of things basically I need to delegate qgil: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/guadec-list/2006-March/msg00000.html ldng: A sum up of events would be nice has I am ... 38 mails behind :( qgil: ldng: I think we could say that a,lmost nothing has advanced on the local side... :/ qgil: maybe I'm being too negative ldng: hum qgil: I hope the recently created guadec-local list will hel,p moving things forward ldng: or sadly right :( qgil: toniher and ldng, you need to olrganize a local meeting getting some of the local groups in it ldng: Took contact with press student but didn't had answers yet qgil: can you please concentrate on this? toniher: I have mailed gnome-l10n-ca group... may you take a look, qgil, and see how many people are subscribed by now? qgil: toniher: wingo is admin of this list, not me toniher: ok qgil: you should be admin too ldng: toniher, where do you actually live ? qgil: can you send the url to the list with some kind of invitation please toniher: Yes, it would be useful in order to see how people are responding. toniher: ldng: In Cerdanyola del Vallès qgil: making clear it's not an English speaking list to thos that speak no Catalan/Spanish ldng: toniher, :D ldng: Ripollet ! ldng: lol toniher: oh! perfect toniher: We may meet for a beer :D qgil: so you can mean in... Ciutat Badia or so ;) ldng: yeah, at list we can meet quickly to setup things, that's nice ldng: s/list/least/ qgil: please, between you 2, wingo an lluís you have enough brain and resources to move all the local groups and volunteers qgil: "just" get coordinated toniher: sure, gqil... we should concentrate on different tasks or groups... qgil: the top poijt in my local ToDo list is to have a list of very specific actions/responsibilities extracted from an updated http://live.gnome.org/GUADEC2006/TaskList qgil: I will report at guadec-local directly qgil: toniher: you can just forward to guadec-list what you have sent to l10n qgil: Softcatalà and LaFarga news wil be also useful ldng: and maybe badopi as well qgil: sure, the more the better qgil: puntbarra... qgil: so.. anything else about the local topic? qgil: (please fix a date for the next meeting asap, this with the local groups, if possible 2-3 weeks in adavnce so people (like myself) can get organized qgil: thanks :) qgil: also, I wil make sure the Vilanova and STSI people are subscribed and active in guadec-local qgil: right qgil: tavon: news about the website? ldng: well this would lead us to April 1st or 8th qgil: think of Easter, ldng qgil: (I have no idea when Easter btw) :) toniher: let me check, when it's Easter... ldng: huumm true ldng: or 25th March but that's short toniher: uuh,,,, qgil: tavon: ping qgil: ldng, toniher, si better to have a successful meeting in 3 weeks rather than yet another unattended meeting in 10 days qgil: making sure people attend to a meeting takes time and emails and even some voice calls tavon: qgil: pong tavon: update about the website... tavon: Please checkout the website section on lgo (http://live.gnome.org/GUADEC2006/Website) tavon: I've posted PDD(Page Description Diagrams) and Wireframes to give a general sense on how I want to organize and go with the website tavon: I'd appreciate feedback on the different sections/layouts tavon: I'm still working on the theme on my local machine tavon: I received a mysqldump from the sysadmin on gnome.org so I have a copy from last thursday or so tavon: I'm keeping in a local SVN repository but I'd like to move it to a public CVS/SVN repository tavon: I'm hoping that the PDD/Wireframes and a public CVS repository will be enough resources for other people to contribute to the theme tavon: as you can tell, there are many aspects of the website that still needs work not only theming but content wise as in pages tavon: any questions of far? tavon: or objections? tavon: qgil: what would you like to do from now on? qgil: have you seen my email at guadec-list today about leaving the beta stage? tavon: yes, I understood the major component was about the registration part qgil: I think there are only 2 critical bugs assigned to you tavon: okay qgil: about the wireframes, I gave you my opinion yesterday, ok but let's see how are they implemented qgil: I still think we don't need giant footers qgil: also, I wouldn't expect much contributions and participation in shot term actions ldng: tavon, wireframe look nice tavon: i hope it's enough to give a clear idea of how the site will be organized tavon: I do have some questions about the presentation listing and content in the GUADEC2006 section ldng: tavon, a priori, what would be your deadline for all of these to be more or less usable ? tavon: Under Event/Schedule, I understand we need to list schedules, different events, but how do I organize BOF's/Expos tavon: ldng: to get all the components finished will be at least a week's work tavon: i'm still working on repeating elements such as the footer and major blocks ldng: maybe a grosser version could be done as soon as possible and next refine as needed ldng: what do you think ? tavon: yes tavon: I agree tavon: the "grosser" version would just be less content tavon: not necessarily uglier ldng: we really need to be operational ldng: no, but functional :) qgil: tavon: personally I can't think of BOFs/Expos before having navigation, homepage and regiustration (plus related pages) finished ldng: I don't think that gnomey's are that exigent ! qgil: we haven't even discussed how BOFs and expos fit in the GUADEC schedule... ldng: I agree, those things can be added later tavon: Can we take some time now to list what the highest priorities are? ldng: homepage, registration ldng: to me tavon: homepage is too vague ldng: the rest, on the road qgil: homepage is the first page, this is not that vague :) tavon: i see ldng: tavon, the first page that give you insight of what and where the event is bolsh: hi ldng: :) ldng: bolsh, hi ! tavon: let's look at the wireframe and point out what blocks/content/banners you want done by tomorrow tavon: bolsh: hi qgil: hi bolsh (comngrats for surviving to libregraphics) :) tavon: so you want me to work on the homepage like the wireframe right? bolsh: thanks :) tavon: with a banner that lists what GUADEC is tavon: and a decorated Sponsors block ldng: bolsh, how did it went ? bolsh: great :) bolsh: some good ideas for future guadecs bolsh: or probably more likely summits qgil: I hope "future" includes 2006 :) ldng: lol bolsh: 1. Don't buy as many t-shirts as you are expecting participants ldng: tavon, yes, more or less, I think that would do it bolsh: 2. Before you start buying mostly L and XL t-shirts, check the size of the Ls. tavon: ok bolsh: 3. One stream of talks, with break-off time after them, is great bolsh: 4. 15 minutes between talks is neither too much nor not enough bolsh: 30 minutes is too much qgil: (I see bolsh hasn't slept yet 12h) :) qgil: ok, about the hoimepage - http://live.gnome.org/GUADEC2006/Website?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=guadec_2006_wireframe_homepage.png ldng: 20 min then between each qgil: I think the banner doesn't need to be so big, I rather have 2 columns and then login/register + sponsors go up bolsh: qgil: Nope qgil: 1 promotional block should list "What you can do now at GUADEC" or something like that bolsh: ldng: N - I said 15 minutes was great tavon: qgil: please keep in mind that the wireframes are not 1:1 with a website... it's a A4 layout so the banner is slightly wider than what it'll look on screen qgil: submit a presentation, register, book accommodation, request invitation letter etc etc tavon: ok qgil: this list would evolve as the calendar goes on bolsh: qgil: I honestly tried to create a block with an RSS stream of articles that were of the Presentation type - I failed qgil: bolsh: tavon is the expert here tavon: i'll get a page lists the presentation nodes tavon: i just need to figure out the flexinode type qgil: ideas fot the other promotional block? bolsh: tavon: How will you do it? With the content admin section, or directly in blocks? bolsh: tavon: Can you perhaps write a little HOWTO while you're doing it? tavon: bolsh: sure, I'm thinking a page that lists all the presentations types like when you click on a taxonomy term bolsh: what's taxonomy? tavon: we can either create a taxonomy term called "Presentations" then go to http://beta.gnome.org/taxonomy/term/(tid)/all tavon: taxonomy is Drupal's category system qgil: ok, let's have a promotional block about the speakers, then? tavon: qgil: i can think of a better one :) qgil: can or can't? :) tavon: we could just have a "New to GUADEC?" type of promotional block tavon: qgil: we can qgil: isn't this the function of your big footer? tavon: qgil: oh yeah... :) bolsh: Nice google news tavon: qgil: btw, do we have pictures/bio of the keynote speakers? qgil: tavon: bolsh is you keunote speakers man tavon: bolsh: "btw, do we have pictures/bio of the keynote speakers?: bolsh: qgil: W will have to hand-hold keynotes a bit bolsh: tavon: We can certainly ask for some qgil: bolsh: ok, that's fine qgil: tavon: about my suggestion of "things I can do·" type of promotional block tavon: qgil: right qgil: I was thinking that in fact this is something related to login/register, isn't it? tavon: qgil: i'm not sure tavon: is it? tavon: how is it related to login/register? qgil: to perform most actions you need to login or register qgil: sounds stupid but this is the link :) qgil: instead fo having a login/register block standing alone qgil: we could give it some context qgil: this way people understand why it's useful to login/register tavon: qgil: either way, I'd think it would be better to still have a sign up/login button as well qgil: in fact, once registered, th "qgil" block lists all the acvtions i can perform tavon: in case people are not logged in or plainly refuse to read the "things I can do" block/page toniher ha sortit de la sala (quit: Remote closed the connection). qgil: I'm not saying you need to remove tje sign up/login button, just integrate it to the list of actions i.e. submit presentation, register to guadec, etc tavon: qgil: I agree there should be a "FAQ" style page that lists things people can do. I'd say a totally separate page dedicated to "Here's how you can help" information would be good as well bolsh: Do we want another keynote? qgil: bolsh: there are at least 6 keynotes in the core days bolsh: Someone from within the community, in the style of miguel, nat, jeff... bolsh: I haven't actually asked anyone else qgil: we can start thinking for keynotes on the weekend and after hours, since it's starting to be clear that guadec will last a whole wqeekl tavon: qgil: so you want to included specfiic actions to menus in the user's navigation bar? bolsh: No need to organise anything after hoursw bolsh: we just need to centralise what's going on qgil: I'll continue with tavon :) bolsh: and have a central place to let people know ldng: about photos, we should really think to take keynoter in photo in the guadec for next year brochure, all at one place, one time, qgil: tavon: I'll try to explain myself better qgil: in the homepage wireframe there is a block for login/register qgil: we keep it where it is toniher [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha entrat a la sala. tavon: ok qgil: we just add there the core actions we want users to do now qgil: i.e. now we want that peopñle submit presentations and requests for sponsorship tavon: okay isee qgil: to perform both tasks they need to be registered anyway qgil: same thing wwhen we start guadec registration qgil: this way we solve two of the main complaints of the beta site qgil: - people don't find where to login/register qgil: - people don't find where to do (whatever we want them to do now) tavon: ok qgil: then... we have a second promotional block empty now qgil: what about GNOME Village to start with, since we want people booking accommodation there tavon: What's teh GNOME village? qgil: and this is a good block to refer to Vilanova, the catalan coast, barcelona etc tavon: okay qgil: where you will sleep terral: qgil: I want accomodations terral: qgil: me me me *grin* tavon: qgil: I don't have any information about the "GNOME Village" qgil: terral: and I would like to helop you registering now... just pushing things in order to have online registration ready terral: qgil: I don't either, and I still want in *grin* terral: qgil: I am following your suggestions on the travelling. We are looking at the busses etc. qgil: tavon: I need to write a page aboiut it, it is also needed for registration qgil: but basically for the promotional block... wehat do you need? tavon: qgil: perhaps we can wait on that and just fill it with a listing of "New forum topics" and a "New comments" block below it tavon: and just ahve 1 promotional block for now qgil: no problem qgil: in anhy case, you gte an idea by looking at http://beta.guadec.org/node/165 tavon: okay qgil: and http://beta.guadec.org/node/166 qgil: so, what else do you need defined about the homepage? tavon: qgil: I think I'm set qgil: great :) tko ha sortit de la sala. qgil: any doubt about the 2 criticval bugs you have assigned related to the v1.0 release? ldng: qgil, can you sum up quickly on what's going on about accomodation, please ? ldng: we're going for the village in the end ? qgil: we are going to recommend people staying in shared bungalows at http://vilanovapark.es , in the so-called GNOME Village qgil: we are goint to get a discounted price for a group reservation done soon ldng: great tavon: qgil: please clarify the 2 "critical" bugs for me qgil: and then the people booking afterwards may get a discount mentioning they come for GUADEC tavon: qgil: which ones are they? qgil: tavon: http://live.gnome.org/GUADEC2006/Website at the top qgil: I mentiomned in that email today :) tavon: qgil: it slipped my mind qgil: of course we will provide as well alternative accommodation in hotels tavon: qgil: i'm nto sure what to do with teh image issue as I don't have permissions to the directory qgil: provide = provide details of qgil: request them to sysadmin or ask for their help qgil: (as said in the bug) :) qgil: bolsh: keynotes ldng: qgil, anything new on scheduling bolsh: qgil? ldng: you read my mind :) qgil: I think it's worth that you push in guadec-.planning to have a basic idea of the keynotes we ant to fill the schedule, co you move forward on this? ldng: do we have enough material to start laying out it ? bolsh: qgil: here's the thing... qgil: ldng: sorry, I don't understand your question bolsh: how many keynotes do we want, and what kind? qgil: 2 par day during the 3 core days at least qgil: maybe also a welcomign one on sunday afternoon ldng: qgil, I mean do we have enough keynotes and talks to start to make a schedule qgil: (in fact I always think of Kathy Sierra for a great warm up keynote) ldng: or a squeleton of schedule qgil: myh approach is the other way round, ldng qgil: we have already a skeleton, a structure qgil: and we could starta ttaching to it the keynotes ldng: yeah ldng: but I mean concretize it a bit qgil: also we could list with php or RSS magic the presentations submittred for a specific track/perspective ldng: starting puting the thing in shape qgil: this would start giving a rough and progressive idea of how GUADEC schedule will be qgil: we can't concretize sessions before the call for participation is finished and the sessions are apoproved / not approved ldng: people might soon would like to see a timetable, even if it's not definitive qgil: this is why I'm suggesting to list all the submissions by now, making clear this is not the schedule etc qgil: ldng: but you understand we can't confirm sessions while a call for participation is open... ldng: it hasn't been opened ? ldng: I thought it had ldng: sorry qgil: I think my suggestion of placing imn the skeleton all the sessions submitted satisfies your request qgil: it's open, it's not closed :) qgil: tavon: do you thin k this is feasible? ldng: ouf ! you scared me :) tavon: qgil: we can do this by categorizing the presentations in separate taxonomy terms tavon: very easy ldng: that would be nice qgil: ok qgil: (22h20, time to start finishing...) ldng: :-D ldng: I agree qgil: so we discussed local + website + keynotes qgil: local: ldng, toniher, wingo i lluis need to coordinate more and better to get the local groups involved - I need to delegate all I still have, guadec-local is the list for this and a sucessful local meeting needs to be organized qgil: website: we have 2 critical bugs + a registration that needs to be urgently done in order to have v1.0 + the homepage is clearer now qgil: keynotes: we need to have them clear asap + the skeleton schedule should start reflecting how the guadec schedule will be like qgil: would this serve as summary? qgil: silent = yes qgil: thank you for being here and we all have more work now :) -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org | http://guadec.org _______________________________________________ guadec-list mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
