Hi, I usually dont top-post but that seems to be the trend in this thread so sorry about the bungled order.
Kesha, Glad to see another Indian woman in Foss. Welcome! Could you please not post Roopesh's mail on the list, especially since he has explicitly said his mail (to you) is off-list, for the second time. Since you are new, I wanted to let you know that posting people's private mails to a publicly archived mailing list, without their permission**, is considered rude. Its is an unwritten rule (more, an etiquette) that people are expected to abide by. ... and while at it, since you asked here is my zero paise worth: I completely agree with Roopesh's opinions. He has explained it well imho. If your goal is to introduce fellow-students to Foss, you can do it from within India - find a Gnome project that they are interested in, organize a bug/hack-fest, join their irc channel (if you want live help from core-devs) and get started. Most Foss dev's wont be mad at getting free help :). As for knowing about Gnome, there is a lot of information online which you can use for your presentations. Once you have done the above, you'd have also learned to organize, speak, co-ordinate and manage a group of people, thereby obtaining the management experience you seek. Hope that helps! best, Vid ॥ http://svaksha.com ॥ ** IME, the only exception is when someone threatens or abuses you in private. Then, you should go public. On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Kesha Shah <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Roopesh, > > Thank you for your views. Academically, I am bright, but I have realized > that just learning things isolated and small lab codes do not help much. One > should have some experience how large real world codebase are maintained and > worked with with many developers contributing at the same time. > > Moreover, my intention is not exactly to learn FOSS and get involved in open > source projects. I already have the basics idea and I am currently a GSoC > student. My main aim for attending this conference is knowing more about > GNOME and get myself involved in Gcompris and introduce my fellow batchmates > and juniors to this fascinating community. We have got a lot of spirit and > enthusiastic students at DA-IICT, but still most of them are not aware, how > to enhance their skills in a better direction. I found this Gnome community > as the best because it provides a lot of options and every interested > student can contribute to the field which he/she likes. Also, I love gnome > for its encouragement of Female developers. I am the only girl from my > university and I know how my friends are ignorant about it and the > difficulties I faced. I also want to learn how large international > conferences are organized and I am interested in getting more experience in > management, so I wish to volunteer there also. In the month of September, we > usually have a seminar in our college to introduce juniors to open source, > gsoc and similar opportunities. I wish to take a session there about GNOME > in particular, if I have enough knowledge about it. > > I agree that visas needs to be arranged, and still we have 13 days, its not > too late also. If things get to sort out fast and if I get confirmation for > some financial help as soon as possible , probably by tomorrow, I can start > visa procedure. I have very short time, but if tried, I am sure we can deal > with it and successfully do it in time. Can you please discuss with company > .Waiting for fellow Gnome community members to have their opinion and > response. > > Thank you and do reply soon :) > > Cheers ! > > Best Regards, > > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 6:07 PM, roopesh shenoy <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> (Taking this off-list again) >> >> Kesha, >> >> I do not deny that attending an international level conference in person >> can be a very enriching experience. However there needs to be a cost-benefit >> analysis to ensure that you are getting that much in return. Even if I >> convince my company to sponsor 50% of your travel costs (and I'm not yet >> promising that yet, it's not my decision alone), you still will have to find >> rest of it (something like another Rs. 35k) for the flight return tickets. >> On top of that, visas need to be arranged, and I don't know whether the >> organizers of the conference will help you with that. I see that the GNome >> conference is around 13 days away, that leaves a very short window to work >> out all the logistics. >> >> If your intention is to learn more about FOSS and getting involved in open >> source projects, there are much simpler and cheaper ways to get started. >> There should be conferences/fests in India as well that you can attend much >> more easily (for e.g. https://wiki.gnome.org/Hackfests/India2013 although >> the dates are yet TBC) >> >> Note that I am not trying to discourage you here - it is great that you >> are interested in going out of your academics and attending international >> conferences. However IMHO, getting basic knowledge does not necessitate you >> to bear this expense and go to this kind of a conference, at least not yet. >> You can spend a similar budget much more frugally and attend a lot more >> software conferences (both open source or otherwise) in India if you ask me. >> However I can be wrong too, so I'll wait to see if others have any >> interesting perspectives about this - this is why I've taken this mail >> off-list. >> >> Do call me on 09663230314, if you feel like speaking about this. >> >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Roopesh >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Kesha Shah <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Roopesh, >>> >>> -Regarding the size of sponsorship, I would be great if I can get travel >>> support. >>> -I believe in-person meeting, having interactions and attending will have >>> a huge impact over webinars. >>> -Sure. This was one of the things in my mind like adding support to Hindi >>> and small Hindi alphabet recognization and playing activity. >>> Also, in the joining different province to make a country activity which >>> exist now (oops ! I cant recall the name), I also thought of adding Indian >>> states- this will make small Indian kids recognize different states, where >>> it is located, how many are there etc. >>> With a little more effort, if we can include capital of every state that >>> would also be great ! >>> An actiivity regarding recipes of Indian dishes will also be cool :) >>> These are few which involves adding activities specific to Indian >>> audience. >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 4:50 PM, roopesh shenoy >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hey Kesha >>>> >>>> Few questions - >>>> >>>> - What is the size of sponsorship you are looking for? >>>> - Is it necessary to attend this conference instead of viewing webinars >>>> or using other online media? >>>> - Would you be interested in an internship that involves adding >>>> activities specific to Indian audience to a GCompris fork? (we would >>>> contribute the patches upstream but whether they get accepted or not will >>>> depend on the project owner Bruno) >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> Best Regards, >>>> >>>> Roopesh >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Kesha Shah <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I am an undergraduate student at Dhirubhai Ambani Institute of >>>>> Information >>>>> and Communication Technology. I have known the FOSS culture and Open >>>>> source >>>>> organizations since past 8 months and love it. >>>>> >>>>> I belong to a university, where there are brilliant coders and students >>>>> with great potentials, but there are few who have got in-depth >>>>> knowledge >>>>> about open source, how anyone can become a part of it and there exists >>>>> many >>>>> misconceptions about it. I have read up how Gnome supports >>>>> new contributes and coders and encourages them and I really like it. >>>>> >>>>> This is often considered as a male-dominated field, where hardly women >>>>> are >>>>> aware of it. To increase the awareness among women in software >>>>> development, >>>>> hats off to programs like Outreach Program for Women. I was unfortunate >>>>> to >>>>> hear about it after the deadline elasped and couldn't participate in it >>>>> but >>>>> fortunate enough to know its hand in hand another program- Google >>>>> Summer of >>>>> Code and be a part of it. >>>>> >>>>> Amongst the 17 students selected from our university this year, I am >>>>> the >>>>> only girl student. None of my female batchmates or female seniors >>>>> present >>>>> at college have got the same opportunity as me. Many of my batchmates, >>>>> juniors and friends ask me how do I start. I do explain them to the >>>>> best I >>>>> can, but still I feel something is lacked and I can't guide them 100%. >>>>> >>>>> I use Gnome and its various softwares. One of them, I feel more >>>>> attached >>>>> with is GCompris. My younger sister loves it and plays it all day long. >>>>> I >>>>> have many plans in head for its improvement. I have downloaded its >>>>> source >>>>> but had got no time to hack upon it due to current project. I plan >>>>> working >>>>> for it after september and do a full time project for its improvement >>>>> and >>>>> adding new activities. >>>>> >>>>> I am willing to attend GUADEC 2013 to learn more about Gnome, involve >>>>> my >>>>> fellow batchmates, junior and friends and also for myself to contribute >>>>> to >>>>> it. I want to meet this awesome community and wonderful people from it, >>>>> but >>>>> I am in financial crisis. It would be great if I can get some >>>>> sponsership >>>>> so that I can attend this conference and bridge the gap. >>>>> >>>>> I am interested in many talks which includes First Step Towards >>>>> Contributing, Gnome in Open Source Community, Gnome Outreach from Three >>>>> Point zero to Hero,FLOSS community outreaches, Outreach Preogram for >>>>> Women-Lessons in Collaboration, Foss & Education. I am also willing to >>>>> volunteer, if given an opportunity to come which may smooth the >>>>> management >>>>> and I can get to help this awesome community :) >>>>> >>>>> I know it has been too long, but thanks for spending you time and >>>>> reading >>>>> it :) >>>>> >>>>> Best Regards, >>>>> -- >>>>> Kesha Shah. >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics >>>>> Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics >>>>> Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. >>>>> Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! >>>>> >>>>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> gcompris-devel mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gcompris-devel >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Kesha Shah. >>> >> > > > > -- _______________________________________________ guadec-list mailing list [email protected] https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
