Le jeu. 30 août 2018 à 00:35, Clément Lassieur <clem...@lassieur.org> a écrit : > > Hi Amirouche, > > Thanks for your answer. > > Amirouche Boubekki <amirouche.boube...@gmail.com> writes: > > > Let's choose our battle wisely. I want to remind that the core of the > > guix users are GNU followers and are also anything but pro web or pro > > web browser or a variation of that. I don't say every GNU follower is > > against the www. It's not the core of potential guix users > > Guix does not target GNU followers.
Good news. > It targets all users. GNU > followers are a very small part of them and they are not a problem > because they usually find their way around. Yes. > The problem is all users > that are not GNU followers (and some GNU followers like me) who need a > modern browser. Out of curiosity, please let us know what you need from the "modern browser"? On my side, I need a debugger for doing web frontends. > We definitely don't want to frighten them with our > nostalgic ideas about how the web should be and how a browser should be. I don't want to be rude at all, especially with who has been nice to me. But following that kind of logic cannot always be a good way forward. > They just want a browser that works. As long as it's free software, > let's not complicate things for them. I agree. I am wondering what that browser make it the browser they want. > Otherwise we'll never grow. Sorry again to disagree. I don't think the future of guix is in the desktop. It has been said that GNU/Linux will kill windows on the desktop for a decade. It did not happen. Nowadays, people use their computer only to run a browser whatever the OS... Given that, It seems to defy the de facto definition of a modern OS not to provide a "good enough" web experience. Snap! > > > 1) What firefox or chromium are useful for comparing to other graphical > > web browsers? > > > > 2) What will chromium bring to guix and guix developers that they > > can't do otherwise? > > > > 3) What are the minimal features for a graphical web browser to be > > useful for a guix developer? > > Today I needed to browse some sites, at work, and I couldn't do it with > anything else than Firefox and Chromium. I'm not alone. Lots of people > need to browse complicated sites that they don't know in advance. > We don't want them to wonder, every time: is it going to work with the > browser shipped with Guix? Agreed. Ok. I will try to help with a) chromium b) investigate what people are expecting from a modern web browser c) See whether qtwebkit is follows upstream security updates and test it to see if it's stable d) do the same with webkit-gtk