On Wed, 08 Jan 2020 07:06:26 +0000 "Raghav Gururajan" <raghavgurura...@disroot.org> wrote:
> Hello Jan! > > Yeah, I am too disappointed by some or half of the things they > incorporated into the project. The thing is, I want to bring more > newcomers of GNU+Linux System into Guix. I would like to see Guix > being deployed as mainstream system for domestic and commercial > purposes. For domestic users, there is a high requirement for > graphical interfaces. Unfortunately, currently we have only GNOME and > KDE as full-blown desktop environments. They both have similar issues > regarding software freedom and software creep. GNOME Software, > QtWebKIT etc. Also. they both are tightly integrated redhat creeps > such as network-manager, pulseaudio, dbus and systemd. The only > reasons for me to lean towards GNOME over KDE, is that 1) Being GNU > Project (hope it stays) 2) Being GTK based (shared dependency with > most other free softwares). > Okay then, if it is going to help promoting Guix, I'm okay with this. > > I also see another light. Enlightenment. The EFL library is > independent of gnome, kde and redhat related stuffs. It has systemd > only as optional dependency. Also uses connman over network-manager. > May there is some hope here. Once Enlightenment grows into drop-in > replacement of GNOME or KDE. I will definitely be shifting my focus > from GNOME to Enlightenment. > I found it a bit strange, guess I'll have to write my own DE anyway :) > > I love the design principles of Xfce. Modularity and re-usability. > The only downside I face with Xfce are 1) Depends on GNOME stuff, > dbus etc. 2) Not as feature-rich as GNOME or KDE. Anyway, Xfce is > good light-weight DE fpr new-comers. That's why Xfce is still on my > hope list. > Understandable. > > Let's not constrain ourselves by stating something as just > opinion. :-) The matters you mentioned are real issues and factually > causing trouble in software freedom. :-) > What I meant by this is I can't really make decisions for the whole community, because I'm just a package maintainer. But you're right those are serious issues. > Regards, > RG. Jan Wielkiewicz