On January 23, 2021, Lars-Dominik Braun <l...@6xq.net> wrote: > [...] Remove pip and > setuptools from python (saves almost 20MiB from the closure and avoids > weird conflicts between python’s setuptools and python-setuptools) and > turn them into (almost) ordinary packages.
I think if we do that then Python will need a treatment similar to GCC, where we don't expose the package and instead offer a compound package (could be called "python-toolchain" or just "python") which includes pip and setuptools. The last decades of python packaging have trained people that when you install python you get pip and setuptools as well, I think we should not try to be too clever and violate that assumption. Also, for what it's worth, we already have python-minimal which doesn't have pip, and it's only
