Hi Ludovic, Ludovic Courtès <l...@gnu.org> writes:
> Mark H Weaver <m...@netris.org> skribis: > >> Léo Le Bouter <lle-b...@zaclys.net> writes: >> >>> It seems you are more focused and spend more time sending accusations >>> here than collaboratively working to improve GNU Guix. I don't feel >>> like that's something great to do at all. >> >> I feel an obligation to protect our users, and among other things that >> means calling attention to Guix committers that are doing things like >> pushing commits with misleading commit logs (which evade proper review) >> and pushing "cosmetic changes" that remove security fixes. > > That you called attention on these issues is a great service to all of > us, Mark. But I have to agree with Ricardo: the harsh accusatory tone > towards Raghav and Léo was not warranted; please assume good faith. I'm sorry if this comes off as obtuse, but having now re-read all of my messages in this thread, I honestly do not see what I did wrong here. I will need some help to understand. With very few exceptions, almost every sentence that I wrote was purely factual. It seems to me that the facts speak for themselves, and those facts naturally cast Raghav and Léo in a bad light. I don't see how to avoid that while still presenting the facts. You, and a couple of others, have criticized my "tone". This is very subjective, especially over email where we must *imagine* the tone of the speaker. Is it possible that you read more in my messages than I actually wrote? It would be very helpful if you could point out specific messages or quotes of mine to illustrate your criticisms, and to clearly explain what's wrong with them. I'm not trying to be obstructionist here. I honestly don't understand, and I cannot improve without understanding. Thanks, Mark -- Disinformation flourishes because many people care deeply about injustice but very few check the facts. Ask me about <https://stallmansupport.org>.