Hi Cayetano, Vagrant, Steve, Gabriel, Andreas,
and others following this thread,

Thank you for your inputs and encouragements, and I am sorry
for shuffling everyone's message for the ease of my response d-;

On 2026-02-06 at 09:00+00:00, Steve George wrote:
> On 2026-02-05 at 13:44-08:00, Vagrant Cascadian wrote:
> > On 2026-02-05 at 20:16+01:00, Cayetano Santos wrote:
> > > Just remember that a single person team has little utility
> >
> > While it is not the ideal, as a member of at least two one-person
> > teams... even a single-person team has the immediate benefit of getting
> > notified when pull requests are submitted in that particular area of
> > interest... and to be able to look for issues and pull requests tagged
> > with that team...
>
> Agreed on the notifications being useful. I don't think there's any point
> having a team where there aren't any committers.  Technically people
> can leave a review and test the package which I think is useful
> (not everyone agrees), but it still leaves the PR
> without anyone to actually push it.

Since the Codeberg migration, there's also
https://codeberg.org/pulls?type=review_requested
which is awesome IMHO.

On 2026-02-05 at 20:16+01:00, Cayetano Santos wrote:
> jeu. 05 févr. 2026 at 11:57, Nguyễn Gia Phong wrote:
> > I just at least want to have fewer modules team-orphaned.
>
> Teams are positive (we have more than 50 at this point !), and avoiding
> orphaned packages is a nice initiative. Feel free to propose a pr with a
> coherent list of modules, including yourself in the corresponding team.
> [...] you'll
> have to gather extra manpower around the team, which will strongly
> depend on its interest for a larger community.

On 2026-02-09 at 09:35+01:00, Andreas Enge wrote:
> On 2026-02-09 at 00:03+01:00, Gabriel Wicki wrote:
> > And contrary to what other people expressed in this thread, teams even
> > without committers absolutely do make sense!  At least that's how I came
> > to be team head of my very own (now 3 member) audio team and got commit
> > access granted last year!
>
> Ah, maybe I misunderstood the discussion. Teams without committers are
> definitely fine, teams without members are less useful ;-)  Ideally
> there would be at least two members, but one has to start somewhere.

> On 2026-02-09 at 00:03+01:00, Gabriel Wicki wrote:
> Encouraging others to join your team will probably be your next step.
>
> [...] Please open a PR with the two teams, I'll happily push them!

Thanks, and here they are:

- Build tools: https://codeberg.org/guix/guix/pulls/6171
- Quality assurance modules: https://codeberg.org/guix/guix/pulls/6166
- Version control: https://codeberg.org/guix/guix/pulls/6165

The VCS one is to start with at least two members,
and QA one has a committer interested too!

On 2026-02-09 at 00:03+01:00, Gabriel Wicki wrote:
> Nguyễn Gia Phong writes:
> > Build tools:
> > [...]
> > Quality assurance:
> > [...]
>
> These categories make sense to me!  I don't think we have to care about
> "overlapping" teams or such, since teams show more interest than
> authority.

I did not think of authority (since I understand teams
to be primiralily for peer reviewing), but avoiding duplicating
responsibility.  A couple teams being responsible for the same module
is probably fine, but too many and each team will likely prioritize
patch series with fewer review requests first.

On 2026-02-06 at 09:00+00:00, Steve George wrote:
> On 2026-02-05 at 13:44-08:00, Vagrant Cascadian wrote:
> > to be able to look for issues and pull requests tagged with that team
> > [...] would even be useful in some cases for some zero-person teams,
> > as ridiculous as that may sound at first glance! :)
> >
> > Makes me wonder if any issues or pull requests not covered by any team
> > should be tagged "no-team" or some such... as they would at least be
> > searchable that way if someone wanted to do some triage on things likely
> > to get neglected...
>
> At least it would be easy to see them.

I'm too in support of this "no-team" or summat tag.

Best wishes,
Phong

P.s. Phong is my given name, which is currently the fashionable way
to refer to people where I'm from.  Calling people by their family name
(e.g. Nguyễn) is mostly done for historical figures only.

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