----- Forwarded message from apteryx <[email protected]> ----- Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 03:38:01 +0200 From: apteryx <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [guix/guix-consensus-documents] 008-human-crafting.md: Add initial draft. (PR #13) X-Mailer: Forgejo
Are we supposed to discuss this here, on on the guix-devel mailing list? At any rate, given the volume of comments in just a few days already, the Avoid repeating arguments that have already been given. suggestion doesn't entice me to jump right in and express my opinion freely, since I now have to read and comprehend an unstructured wall of text (24k words) on Codeberg, which is a big commitment to just get started expressing an opinion. It may be better to lift that constraint and let everyone express themselves freely, with the GCD author(s) or some conductor bearing the responsibility of synthesizing and addressing the points made, however repetitive some may be. The volume of comments is perhaps also an indication that this issue is polarized enough that reaching a consensus on it will be difficult. --- [1]View it on Codeberg.org. Codeberg e.V. – Arminiusstraße 2-4 – 10551 Berlin – Germany Registered at registration court Amtsgericht Charlottenburg VR36929. References 1. https://codeberg.org/guix/guix-consensus-documents/pulls/13#issuecomment-15887837 ----- End forwarded message ----- I completely agree. You know, the one really nice thing about GCD008 discussion is that it brings out what incredible intelligent and civilised individuals we have in our project. Even though the ideas are clearly opposed to each other we *all* try to find some middle ground. It is delightful for someone like me who has seen things escalate in many free software projects. I repeat we should stop trying to split our community by a single AI statement (people always get disenfranchised, as Ricardo rightly wrote up, by any position one takes). To add, personally, I *am* worried about the future of our ecology and I do think AI can lead to a dystopian future. Also I agree that investors can be stupid and leaders can be evil. Humanity proves that over and over again. But if you really believe in humanity you also believe that science, rational thought and democracy are strong forces that will survive and persevere. The force for self governance and open discourse is very strong (once gained). Every argument raised in GCD008 can be countered because our AI future is in the making. Nothing is set in stone and this thing is simply to big for us and it is too early to take a position (even if you can clearly do so as an individual). I suggest we go with Christine's wording, leave out everything else on energy, evilness, worries of the future, etc. etc. All we should really care about is that no slop enters Guix and that people take ownership of what they do whatever way they go about it. Any position the project takes will disenfranchise a part of our current and future community. Which is not a good thing, unless we want to keep Guix small and limited to a certain mind set. If that is the goal you may state that as well.
