On 16/7/26 18:14, Simon Tournier wrote:
Hi Hugo,

On Thu, 16 Jul 2026 at 12:06, Hugo Buddelmeijer via "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU 
System distribution." <[email protected]> wrote:

Second, I did (and still) do feel that it is possible to use tools like
LLMs without harming conviviality; even enhancing it.

For what my opinion is worth, I don’t think LLMs might be a convivial
technology, never.
I didn't mean to start this whole LLM discussion again.

The point of the message was that in practice it doesn't matter much whether LLMs can in theory be used in accordance to our ethics, because in a correctly functioning convivial system there wouldn't be a real need for them.

I'll need to do some more reading to ensure I properly understand all those conviviality threats, but I feel we can (and should) do much better with respect to at least three of them, maybe even all five.

Starting with number 5, because the Guix Python ecosystem absolutely has an "excessive and engineered rate of obsoleteness".

Nevertheless I'm feeling positive, because I believe we have a very good technological and social basis for making conviviality work again.


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