That might make for some fun game and wargame play for sure.. Imagine wargaming inside a space ship/hulk? Like Rama the ship by the same name book.
Would make for some fun gaming, you the sci-fi come in to salvage or explore and find whole cultures locked in war or conflict inside the leviathan/hulk you thought was just a space ship/station. Always wanted to do a fantasy RPG where the players are working their way thru a modern or futuristic world, but its thru their eyes, so it all seems fantasy or ... Geiger and Aliens the movie, a fun exploration of horror and sci-fi and fantasy? Mike On 6/5/12, Michael Chiarcos <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi All, > > Best example I can think of is a "Space Hulk" out of Warhammer 40K. To > those of you who don't get the reference, a space hulk is a completely or > partially intact space ship that has been lost in the Warp (hyperspace by > any other name) for anything from months to millenia. It has been since > colonized by whatever lives in the warp as well as may have some remaining > indigenous population (or their descendants) most of which have been > willingly or unwillingly mutated by the warp. (new religions and belief > systems are always fun to insert here) Depending on the size of the hulk > there can be whole cities of people, critters, nastiness, etc all encased in > a fragile shell that at any time could breach onto vacuum. Unless you > check, you never know what could be behind that door. Does it open to a > safe zone, a slathering mutant, or open space. > > > Michael > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Abrigon > To: FTL2448 > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 6:39 AM > Subject: [FTL2448] Abandoned Space Station/Base? > > > > wish my cell could do better with editing and forwards.. > > How alien is the space station? Prometheus (fore thought vs Epimetheus > (after thought) his brother, the one wh0 married Pandora. The who > that was give the box of suffering, but hope was kept inside and .. > Hum.. Avatar tie in or ... groan.. > > how to wargame a space station? Large enough for sure? > > Could not find a break point, sorry: Some is new, some is yahoo group > that not sure made it over here? > > Mike > ---- > Ideas, why and how, adventures on an old abandoned star > port/base/station? > > Sort of an old Dungeon Crawl, but in a space station? The form of > spike and spokes and like might be the best? > > Designed from the Infestation/Invasion point and out from there? As > you the explores find out what is left, or not or dangers and ... I > Loved the idea of "Fantasy" races as sci-fi ones.. Grin..Orcs in > space? > > International Space station in a post-apocalyptic world? Elements of > Morrow Project or ... Rise of the Planet of the Apes? I know the 2nd > movie was .. sort of like but .. not seen it.. 2nd or 3rd? > > I still like the idea of the locals finding it as they expand into > local space and ... never know, first contact might be triggered or .. > Prometheus sounds ... will see.. not seen it yet.. > > Mike > Alaska > > ----- > May 17: > > Space Station or Star Base, overt or covert? > > Covert, the base might be hard to find, part of an asteroid or like > and has defenses and weapons as well as other issues oce you get > inside? > > Overt, more open, might be out in the open but damaged due to > collisions over the centuries, but asteroid or free floating? > > Station, more like a fueling station, place for commerce ad like, > versus a star base, that might be near a worm hole or like, or > strategic location and might cause issues? > > I think it would be much like an old style DnD dungeon, but having > reasons for monsters to be where they are at, with no obvious food > sources and like? > > Mike > > May 16th: > > Working on a station, partially abandoned much like a dungeon from DnD.. > > Slime covered walls, not sure what or who made them. > > The locals are low tech, barely at our current level. > > The station is in their Oort cloud or asteroid field. > > Who built it, or why it was left? > > Possibles: > Aliens, dud, but which kind the humanoid like, or the truely alien or > how hostile would they be, or could be>? > > The station is not in space, but under the surface of the explorers > world? Might go for a lower tech group for this one? > > docking clamps work? oxygen or some other gas for breathing or > nothing? or toxic for all? > > power core still around or it needs to be powered up or even replaced. > > Weapons caches and what sort are they? > > Pods and like, anyone left in one, cryo or like and what sort of > person? Adult? Child? Criminal or just ... > > I think, going for a Prometheus/Alien horror feel? Predators around or > ... > > Avatar or like universe, so its possible to have what else? > > Replicants from Blade Runner or just Androids? > > Aliens > Predators > > Star Ship trooper or what? its a Traveller Universe or Star Frotiers or > what ? > > -------------------- > Abrigon > View profile > More options Mar 27, 1:10 pm > > True, after all why built it in orbit? Other than a place to build a > ship, > especially one that can't get up off the planet, cause of size or other > issues. > > For ideas, its like why the US and like, had to have the Phillipines and > Hawaii and like.. Coaling stations for one, as well as place to station > ships and preposition things.. > > Like in several foreign countries, the US has storage places of equipment > and such, ready for people to come in and do their job. Its easier than > having to get a fleet of cargo ships up and ready, then with warships > protecting them and to the combat zone. Especially these days when a war > or > conflict can flare up quickly.. Regional needs, such as depots in lik > Kuwait, that if Iraq or other places need action the stuff is already > there, it does raise issues of if the host country is in danger of > rebellion and like, or why a number of US supplied arms and such was fall > into other than friendly hands cause the depot ours or the governments > one > was over run and fell into the hands of the new government. > > Space station or battle station? Ships protect it, or it has big guns and > like of its own? Missles and like, or .. > > But yes, the idea is to use the now abandoned, cause not sure of how or > why > it was abandoned.. Its now unoccupied, its owners long gone or .. > > Or the former owners are now degenerated residents of the station? The > reason for the monsters? > > Mike > > ------------------ > I see space stations the way the Elizabeth Moon uses them as ports for > ships to large and non aerodynamic to land on the surface of a world. For > those who may not be familiar with Ms Moons works these stations are > giant > cities in space whose job is like any port move cargo both for > transshipment and to be passed down to the surface. It has shipyards to > repair damage up to and including building a new ship and it is the home > for the space defence forces and revenue collecting services. They serve > all the needs of the space faring communities. Also there are stations > out > on the shipping routes that are were places ,in the beginning of > exploration and trade,where you stopped for supplies ,fuel and rest on > long > jumps. Some of these are now border stations but most are now forgotten > and > mostly abandoned or taken over buy the less savory people in space > exploitation and if you as adventurers stop there you can have adventures > or even just refuel your ship and move on. But be careful who you trust. > Read Elizabeth Moons Vatta Wars or her Serrano Books for more ideas. > - Hide quoted text - > > --- In [email protected], Abrigon <abrigon@...> wrote: > > - Hide quoted text - > > > Anyone have a space station or base, that can be found and salvaged or > used > > as a base of operations, would be nice if it was near a planet or like. > > Hook for an adventure to/from the planet? > > Tech to be as average as possible. Not to alien. > > The idea is to use it for Star Frontiers/Star Wars (not to Jedi or > like), > > Traveller, FTL:2448 or like game. SG1 maybe but option for stargate or > > like, but likely not needed (Shuttles and the PCs ship). Firefly or > like? > > > What other universes or like might it be used for? The idea is to keep > it > > as generic as possible, yes with options for different game/tv/movie > > universes. > > > Yes, options for other things, but best for now generic. > > > Adventure or plot scenario and ... any ideas? > > > Game system as generic as possible, or option for 2-3? or ideas what > > systems would be the best for something like this? > > > Mike > > ------------------- > > Some ideas of how a space station or like could be used? > > > Smugglers? > > Recon or forward base? > > Salvage? > > Base for Piracy? > > Adventure, the base has something or may have something, not just for > > salvage but .. > > > I think something depends on who finds it? > > > If its a ship like Firefly or like, then it might be a place to dock, > fix > > the ship, hide out from the Alliance and ...refuge or .. > > > IF its the locals, who have just gotten into space, either on their > own, > or > > they found a shuttle craft, or like on the planet surface and then > found > > the starbase. > > > Commercial or military base? Human or some other race built it, used > it, > > abandoned it and what? > > > What would or might be left behind, going for as generic tech as > possible. > > > Dr. Who or ... > > > who is using it for a base? Totally abandoned or .. > > > Mike > > --------- > Abrigon > View profile > More options Mar 27, 4:36 pm > > True how many towns that used to service cattle are now long gone? Some > survived and thrived but not all. > > Anchorage to the south of here, started as a port and logistical hub into > the interior and area around it.. Or why the rail road and road network > goes to it. > > There is other places, Valdez for one, the oil and fishing. They built > Whittier years ago, before I think Anchorage, cause it was a deep water > port, things change and now. Whittier you got to go thru a tunnel thru a > mountain to get to it. > Anchorage was also the place where the early telegraph and then phone was > run from. > > Also it being a nice flat piece of land, was good for the Air Strip or > two > there for the Army and then the Air Force. > > Mike > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Warren Peters > <[email protected]>wrote: > > - Hide quoted text - > > > Your right why build it in orbit as I said you could build it anyplace > in > > FASA's Star Trek all the races have tugs that can tow space stations > where > > ever they are needed you could also build a station where you needed > it. > > As for Defense why was the US Navy Marines, Air Corp and Army in Hawaii > > , the Philippines and Guam in 1941; it was to defend Hawaii the > > Philippines and Guam from attack and to defend the people who lived > > there. In fact Oahu and Manila Bay had some of the strongest defenses > in > > the area on paper.So you would use your fleet to aid in defense by > > engaging your opponents beginning at long range and doing it for a long > > period of time so to capture a station would be cost prohibited.and > your > > Revenue Service to collect your tariffs and enforce regulations around > the > > station. > > > The reason for abandonment can be for anything if you get on a train in > > Portland Oregon and ride to Chicago you will find places that at > onetime > > had station but they closed and the town died because trains stopped > coming > > to town or the reason for the station never panned out so it was > abandonedso > > there can be any number of reasons for abandonment. Hell it's a game > you > > can make the reason. > > > *From:* Abrigon <[email protected]> > > *To:* Abrigon-World AWG <[email protected]>; Abrigon World > > AWY <[email protected]>; StargruntsOOC < > > [email protected]> > > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 27, 2012 2:10 PM > > *Subject:* [Abrigon-World] Abandoned Star Base > > > True, after all why built it in orbit? Other than a place to build a > ship, > > especially one that can't get up off the planet, cause of size or other > > issues. > > > For ideas, its like why the US and like, had to have the Phillipines > and > > Hawaii and like.. Coaling stations for one, as well as place to station > > ships and preposition things.. > > > Like in several foreign countries, the US has storage places of > equipment > > and such, ready for people to come in and do their job. Its easier than > > having to get a fleet of cargo ships up and ready, then with warships > > protecting them and to the combat zone. Especially these days when a war > or > > conflict can flare up quickly.. Regional needs, such as depots in lik > > Kuwait, that if Iraq or other places need action the stuff is already > > there, it does raise issues of if the host country is in danger of > > rebellion and like, or why a number of US supplied arms and such was > fall > > into other than friendly hands cause the depot ours or the governments > one > > was over run and fell into the hands of the new government. > > > Space station or battle station? Ships protect it, or it has big guns > and > > like of its own? Missles and like, or .. > > > But yes, the idea is to use the now abandoned, cause not sure of how or > > why it was abandoned.. Its now unoccupied, its owners long gone or .. > > > Or the former owners are now degenerated residents of the station? The > > reason for the monsters? > > > Mike > > > ------------------ > > I see space stations the way the Elizabeth Moon uses them as ports for > > ships to large and non aerodynamic to land on the surface of a world. > For > > those who may not be familiar with Ms Moons works these stations are > giant > > cities in space whose job is like any port move cargo both for > > transshipment and to be passed down to the surface. It has shipyards to > > repair damage up to and including building a new ship and it is the > home > > for the space defence forces and revenue collecting services. They > serve > > all the needs of the space faring communities. Also there are stations > out > > on the shipping routes that are were places ,in the beginning of > > exploration and trade,where you stopped for supplies ,fuel and rest on > long > > jumps. Some of these are now border stations but most are now forgotten > and > > mostly abandoned or taken over buy the less savory people in space > > exploitation and if you as adventurers stop there you can have > adventures > > or even just refuel your ship and move on. But be careful who you > trust. > > Read Elizabeth Moons Vatta Wars or her Serrano Books for more ideas. > > - Hide quoted text - > > > --- In [email protected], Abrigon <abrigon@...> wrote: > > > > Anyone have a space station or base, that can be found and salvaged > or > > used > > > as a base of operations, would be nice if it was near a planet or > like. > > > Hook for an adventure to/from the planet? > > > Tech to be as average as possible. Not to alien. > > > The idea is to use it for Star Frontiers/Star Wars (not to Jedi or > like), > > > Traveller, FTL:2448 or like game. SG1 maybe but option for stargate > or > > > like, but likely not needed (Shuttles and the PCs ship). Firefly or > like? > > > > What other universes or like might it be used for? The idea is to keep > it > > > as generic as possible, yes with options for different game/tv/movie > > > universes. > > > > Yes, options for other things, but best for now generic. > > > > Adventure or plot scenario and ... any ideas? > > > > Game system as generic as possible, or option for 2-3? or ideas what > > > systems would be the best for something like this? > > > > Mike > > > ------------------- > > > Some ideas of how a space station or like could be used? > > > > Smugglers? > > > Recon or forward base? > > > Salvage? > > > Base for Piracy? > > > Adventure, the base has something or may have something, not just for > > > salvage but .. > > > > I think something depends on who finds it? > > > > If its a ship like Firefly or like, then it might be a place to dock, > fix > > > the ship, hide out from the Alliance and ...refuge or .. > > > > IF its the locals, who have just gotten into space, either on their > own, > > or > > > they found a shuttle craft, or like on the planet surface and then > found > > > the starbase. > > > > Commercial or military base? Human or some other race built it, used > it, > > > abandoned it and what? > > > > What would or might be left behind, going for as generic tech as > > possible. > > > > Dr. Who or ... > > > > who is using it for a base? Totally abandoned or .. > > > > Mike > > > -- > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Poetry-L/ > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Adulthumor-L/ > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Abrigon-World/ > > > > > > > --http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Poetry-L/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/... > > ----- > yahoogroups: > > Re: [Abrigon-World] Abandoned Star Base > > Your right why build it in orbit as I said you could build it anyplace > in FASA's Star Trek all the races have tugs that can tow space > stations where ever they are needed you could also build a station > where you needed it. As for Defense why was the US Navy Marines, Air > Corp and Army in Hawaii , the Philippines and Guam in 1941; it was to > defend Hawaii the Philippines and Guam from attack and to defend the > people who lived there. In fact Oahu and Manila Bay had some of the > strongest defenses in the area on paper.So you would use your fleet > to aid in defense by engaging your opponents beginning at long range > and doing it for a long period of time so to capture a station would > be cost prohibited.and your Revenue Service to collect your tariffs > and enforce regulations around the station. > > The reason for abandonment can be for anything if you get on a train > in Portland Oregon and ride to Chicago you will find places that at > onetime had station but they closed and the town died because trains > stopped coming to town or the reason for the station never panned out > so it was abandoned so there can be any number of reasons for > abandonment. Hell it's a game you can make the reason. > > From: Abrigon <[email protected]> > To: Abrigon-World AWG <[email protected]>; Abrigon World > AWY <[email protected]>; StargruntsOOC > <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 2:10 PM > Subject: [Abrigon-World] Abandoned Star Base > > True, after all why built it in orbit? Other than a place to build a > ship, especially one that can't get up off the planet, cause of size > or other issues. > > For ideas, its like why the US and like, had to have the Phillipines > and Hawaii and like.. Coaling stations for one, as well as place to > station ships and preposition things.. > > Like in several foreign countries, the US has storage places of > equipment and such, ready for people to come in and do their job. Its > easier than having to get a fleet of cargo ships up and ready, then > with warships protecting them and to the combat zone. Especially these > days when a war or conflict can flare up quickly.. Regional needs, > such as depots in lik Kuwait, that if Iraq or other places need action > the stuff is already there, it does raise issues of if the host > country is in danger of rebellion and like, or why a number of US > supplied arms and such was fall into other than friendly hands cause > the depot ours or the governments one was over run and fell into the > hands of the new government. > > Space station or battle station? Ships protect it, or it has big guns > and like of its own? Missles and like, or .. > > But yes, the idea is to use the now abandoned, cause not sure of how > or why it was abandoned.. Its now unoccupied, its owners long gone or > .. > > Or the former owners are now degenerated residents of the station? The > reason for the monsters? > > Mike > > ------------------ > I see space stations the way the Elizabeth Moon uses them as ports for > ships to large and non aerodynamic to land on the surface of a world. > For those who may not be familiar with Ms Moons works these stations > are giant cities in space whose job is like any port move cargo both > for transshipment and to be passed down to the surface. It has > shipyards to repair damage up to and including building a new ship and > it is the home for the space defence forces and revenue collecting > services. They serve all the needs of the space faring communities. > Also there are stations out on the shipping routes that are were > places ,in the beginning of exploration and trade,where you stopped > for supplies ,fuel and rest on long jumps. Some of these are now > border stations but most are now forgotten and mostly abandoned or > taken over buy the less savory people in space exploitation and if you > as adventurers stop there you can have adventures or even just refuel > your ship and move on. But be careful who you trust. Read Elizabeth > Moons Vatta Wars or her Serrano Books for more ideas. > - Hide quoted text - > > --- In [email protected], Abrigon <abrigon@...> wrote: > > > > Anyone have a space station or base, that can be found and salvaged or > used > > as a base of operations, would be nice if it was near a planet or like. > > Hook for an adventure to/from the planet? > > Tech to be as average as possible. Not to alien. > > The idea is to use it for Star Frontiers/Star Wars (not to Jedi or > like), > > Traveller, FTL:2448 or like game. SG1 maybe but option for stargate or > > like, but likely not needed (Shuttles and the PCs ship). Firefly or > like? > > > > What other universes or like might it be used for? The idea is to keep > it > > as generic as possible, yes with options for different game/tv/movie > > universes. > > > > Yes, options for other things, but best for now generic. > > > > Adventure or plot scenario and ... any ideas? > > > > Game system as generic as possible, or option for 2-3? or ideas what > > systems would be the best for something like this? > > > > Mike > > ------------------- > > Some ideas of how a space station or like could be used? > > > > Smugglers? > > Recon or forward base? > > Salvage? > > Base for Piracy? > > Adventure, the base has something or may have something, not just for > > salvage but .. > > > > I think something depends on who finds it? > > > > If its a ship like Firefly or like, then it might be a place to dock, > fix > > the ship, hide out from the Alliance and ...refuge or .. > > > > IF its the locals, who have just gotten into space, either on their own, > or > > they found a shuttle craft, or like on the planet surface and then > found > > the starbase. > > > > Commercial or military base? Human or some other race built it, used > it, > > abandoned it and what? > > > > What would or might be left behind, going for as generic tech as > possible. > > > > Dr. Who or ... > > > > who is using it for a base? Totally abandoned or .. > > > > Mike > > > > > > Re: Space Station abandoned > > Ever checked out FTL:2448, its space ships and like are more modular > in construction.. I forget what movie or two, that had ships like it? > > Cargo ships that are a bridge compartment, and then its has a girder > that goes back to the engine module. Along the girder is latch points > for cargo connexes and like.. > > Mike > > 4a. Re: Space Station abandoned > Posted by: "warnerd_x" [email protected] warnerd_x > Date: Sun Apr 8, 2012 12:34 am ((PDT)) > > It is possible in a zero-G habitat only with careful long range planning. > > It would be a nightmare to implement in a rotating habitat with all > the problems of shifting centers of mass and rotation, vibration, and > torque issues. You also have to stop and restart the rotation when > adding or swapping out modules. > > --- In [email protected], Matthew Taylor <taylorsmatthew@...> > wrote: > > > > Have you considered the effects of a more modular assembly of space > habitats? I could see a situation where you basically have a central "hub", > collectively owned and managed, supported by dues (think homeowners > association on steroids) surrounded by greater or lesser habitation and > commercial modules. Long term modules would be owners, there might be > renters as well. > > > > Such a "can" might be in a state of constant upgrading and evolution > without ever being abandoned wholesale for one big renovation. > > > > Matthew > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original > > Unstarred iandalhuisen Thu, May 17, 2012 at 7:51 AM > Add star > Abrigon > <[email protected]> Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 2:29 AM > To: "[email protected]" > <[email protected]>, sfconsim-l > <[email protected]>, TravDownPort > <[email protected]>, traveller_t20 > <[email protected]> > Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original > wish my cell could do better with editing and forwards.. > > How alien is the space station? Prometheus (fore thought vs Epimetheus > (after thought) his brother, the one wh0 married Pandora. The who > that was give the box of suffering, but hope was kept inside and .. > Hum.. Avatar tie in or ... groan.. > > Mike > > -- > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Poetry-L/ > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Adulthumor-L/ > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Abrigon-World/ > > > -- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Poetry-L/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Adulthumor-L/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Abrigon-World/ _______________________________________________ GurpsNet-L mailing list <[email protected]> http://mail.sjgames.com/mailman/listinfo/gurpsnet-l
