Hi all,
selling a manual via amazon sounds pretty good to me.
I could update some stuff from the old days and contribute (and also
generate new content of course).
Not sure about the win-win thing but willing to try ;-)
@video tutorials: Seems like I am the last person preferring reading over
watching, hum? I recognize that information through videos is increasingly
important but still I stick to good old text. But we can give it a try
after/shortly before all things are settled for 1.0.
Best,
Johannes
2011/10/21 Benjamin Ducke <[email protected]>
> Basically, I think this is a good idea.
>
> If we can manage to get a small group of people
> together to author this, and find a way to sell
> the manual at a price that is both attractive to
> the buyers and high enough, so that all contributors
> can get paid for the work they put in, we have
> a winner.
>
> Maybe publishing directly via Amazon would do
> the trick? With several people working on the
> script, We can just cut out all middle
> men, like editors, of the traditional publishing
> chain.
>
> Personally, I will only be able to contribute
> after the release of gvSIG CE 1.0. Up to that
> point, I will be too busy with the actual
> software.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ben
>
> On 10/21/2011 06:23 AM, karsten wrote:
> > Hi José,
> >
> > I understand the comments Ben made and I agree that there are limited
> > resources. I also agree that it is frustrating for users when
> > documentation is not available. I have been stuck with great pieces of
> > OS software (and proprietary ones as well ) due a lack for documentation
> > (even in the internet and Google age :) ). I think that it is virtually
> > impossible to create - and even more important to maintain - good
> > documentation in the long term without any funding sources. Thus, let
> > me introduce how I am going about documentation not specific to one
> > software pieces but in the case of OS web mapping. I am running a small
> > GIS consulting business in Seattle USA for the last 5 years, and I have
> > been offering and teaching classes for OS Web GIS with MapServer,
> > PostGIS and OpenLayers professionally for the last 3 years ( 4 classes
> > total, see http://www.terragis.net/gis-classes/os-web-gis ) . Over the
> > years the class manual grew and now I am planning to publish it as a
> > stand alone booklet and sell it. Yes sell it. However, I am planning to
> > donate 50% of my authors process to OSGEO, (or our local chapter here in
> > Seattle CUGOS www.cugos.org which will is in the process of becoming a
> > non-profit itself). The other 50% of my share of the proceeds will use
> > for funding the advancement and maintenance in the long term of the
> > document. FYI the document is written and in the process of being edited
> > and will be about 150-200 pages in the new format. The whole point why I
> > am mentioning this is that I myself was frustrated with documentation
> > for some pieces of software and especially in the long term the
> > maintenance of already existing documentations often (usually) do not
> > work out too well in reality (mostly they just don't with some
> > exceptions). Thus I am proposing to use the same approach and to put
> > together a small but dedicated group of people to write a gvSIG (CE ?)
> > booklet that can be funded and maintained in a similar way outlined
> > above . I am ready to participate . José ? Ruth? Victor ? Others ? Who
> > is ready to join ?
> >
> > Thoughts ?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Karsten
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > *From:*José Antonio Canalejo Alonso [mailto:[email protected]]
> > *Sent:* Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:09 PM
> > *To:* gvsigce-users; gvsigce-community
> > *Subject:* [Gvsigce-community] Tutorials and Videos
> >
> > Hello all,
> > what do you think about something like this (http://geo.ideaplus.com.br
> )?
> > I like it very much. The only problem is the mix of languages (english,
> > spanish, portuguese).
> > Between 2007 and 2009 we were working with a group of volunteers
> > (http://www.gvsig.org/web/community/agradecimientos/traductores/)
> > translating the handbook of gvSIG 1.1.2 into german. The whole manual
> > was translated and it "should" be available behind this link
> > (
> http://www.gvsig.org/web/projects/gvsig-desktop/docs/user/gvsig-desktop-1-1-manual-de-usuario/gvsig-desktop-1-1-manual-de-usuario/not_available_lang/view?set_language=de
> ).
> > It took a long time to be finished. We wrote a document to explain the
> > people how they could edit the plone themselves. At the end most of them
> > sent us their translations because they didn't find time to edit the
> > plone and we had to edit it ourselves with one or two volunteers. Screen
> > shots were not translated into german and actually, AFAIK no one is
> > doing the translation into german of 1.9 (1.10 or 1.11).
> > People expect to have the software with handbooks, manuals and tutorials
> > but it is difficult (not impossible) to find funding for this.
> > One of the major difficulties of open source projects is the lack of
> > documentation. Handbooks and tutorials are often done many months after
> > the version is released.
> > So we have to look for a solution. On the web you will find a lot of
> > videos and tutorials like the link mentioned above. Users like to make
> > these kind of tutorials. They don't need instructions and they can work
> > autonomous. We have a software with more than 800 functionalities (even
> > more now with R-Sextante Interface:
> > http://sextantegis.blogspot.com/2011/10/r.html). We are testing them and
> > simultaneously we could make small tutorials and put them in a common
> > gvSIG CE platform (wiki, google sites, ... and whatever related web
> > solutions people would like to bring up). We could provide a template
> > with gvSIG CE layout to make it nice and easy for authors. We could
> > include author's name and contact e-mail address to promote their work
> > with the project. It is better to have a common platform than thousands
> > links on the web (oft with the same information)
> > I think it is a good way to bring different people together to exchange
> > thoughts and know How.
> > What do you think about?
> > Best regards!
> > Jose
> >
> > --
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> > gvSIG CE Team
> > www.gvsigce.org
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