I just read that book on the booksense without any problems. For that
matter, I've read all of the Perry Mason novels on the booksense without any
problems.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandy Licht" <[email protected]>
To: "Russ Kiehne" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] Why I have switched back to the Victor Stream
Mine does it with the current BookSense firmware, specifically with a
Perry Mason book by Erle Stanley Gardner. It is the collection of 7
novels. I forget the name at the moment.
At 06:19 AM 11/19/2009 -0800, you wrote:
Then please explain to me why the same book on my victor reader stream
didn't do the same thing? And I don't have it happen withe the current
firmware.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Gowen" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>; "Sandy Licht" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] Why I have switched back to the Victor Stream
We certainly cannot blame the fact that we hear "End of Side" once in a
while on the Book Sense or its firmware.
That information is a part of the original recordings and it is entirely
up to those who do the daisy markup to make sure that the daisy player is
told to jump over such information by the use of a special mark in the
file. If the person doing the markup misses it and then the quality
control department also misses it, then we are going to be hearing the
unwanted info.
In other words, a book producer problem, not a Book Sense problem.
Rod
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy Licht" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] Why I have switched back to the Victor Stream
Can we really blame the end of side messages on the BookSense? If they
have been recorded, they are just... there to be played like any other
part of the book. We all have our pet peeves, I suppose.
At 08:06 AM 11/18/2009 -0800, you wrote:
You had better luck than I did! I kept losing my place, and getting
end of side messages while listening to the books.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Gowen" <[email protected]>
To: "Russ Kiehne" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] Why I have switched back to the Victor
Stream
Hi Russ,
I, as stated, am still using v1.0 and have listened to over 50 NLS
books on it so far and can honestly say that I have never lost my
bookmark or my place while reading, no lockups and no dropouts.
One of these was the 800 megabyte, 75 hour Big Book Of Pulps and
others were very short.
I guess my biggest complaint, if I have one other than the
pronounciation dictionary, is in regard to the low volume of the NLS
books as compared to the volume of the book itself.
I do have one question for GW and HIMS though.
Why must we hear the TTS voice tell us the title of the book when it
is fully loaded? After all, didn't we just hear the title before we
pressed play?
It seems totally unnecessary.
In any case, I have had no problems with NLS books on this particular
unit.
Rod
----- Original Message ----- From: "Russ Kiehne" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:48 AM
Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] Why I have switched back to the Victor
Stream
The 1.0 was unusable when it comes to listening to nls books. I
don't use playlists.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Gowen" <[email protected]>
To: "Terri Pannett" <[email protected]>; "Rich Ring"
<[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] Why I have switched back to the Victor
Stream
I bought my Book Sense standard the first day they were for sale and
have been using it every day since, with very few problems!
I have not updated the original firmware, or, I should say that I
have updated it (twice) and gone back to V1.0 each time.
I went back because I want to use playlists and they did break that
in the beta version.
As for reading NLS books, I have never lost a bookmark or had a book
refuse to play nor have I ever lost my place in one of them.
I do not use audible, so cannot comment on that.
I read my newspaper from NFB Newsline each morning and these have
given me no problem either.
I play a lot of books that I have ripped from CDs and converted to
single files and have had no trouble with these to date.
The one area that I would have to say that I am disappointed in is
with the TTS pronounciation dictionary.
Other than that, I will continue to enjoy my little unit and be
waiting patiently for any fixes and new and exciting additions to
the firmware that may be in the works and on the way.
I will say, that, if I were in Rich's position, and having as many
problems as he talks about having, I would be on the phone getting
an RMA and a new unit!
Rod
----- Original Message -----
From: "Terri Pannett" <[email protected]>
To: "Rich Ring" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] Why I have switched back to the Victor
Stream
I very seldom have a problem keeping my place reading an NLS book.
I hit the pause button and then I turn it off. I've never used
bookmarks, so I can't comment on them. I don't use audible books,
either.
The few times the BS didn't keep my place were my fault, not the
BookSense.
Terri Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Ring"
<[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:24 AM
Subject: [GW-Booksense] Why I have switched back to the Victor
Stream
Greetings all:
I received my Booksense at the NFB convention in early July. Until
last Wednesday, November 11, I have used it exclusively for all of
my reading needs. I love its form factor. I love its navigation
structure. I love the fact that it has a clock. I love its text
to speech voices. However, I have simply been too frustrated by
other issues to continue using the device. I shall name them here.
1. The device will not keep its place in any NLS book. If I load
an NLS book, navigate to a chapter heading, read for a few minutes
and then subsequently close that book, when I open the book again,
I am always taken back to the beginning of the book, and this is
frustrating. Certainly, I can find my place, but this behavior
should not be.
2. Suppose I am reading an NLS book, and I turn the device off.
Now, I turn it back on, and press "play" to start listening to the
book. What often happens is you get this incredible machine gun
noise. You can correct the problem by changing the navigation
level, but again, this should not be.
3. My Booksense will never save bookmarks.
4. My Booksense is not honoring headings in Audible books.
The reason I finally gave up on the unit is that I downloaded
"Under the Dome" from Audible last week, and when the Booksense
kept taking me back to the beginning of a part of the book, I'd
simply had enough.
I truly love this device, but until the firmware update is
released, I will use the Stream, because it always holds my place,
and it honors Audible headings. There is only so much frustration
I can deal with, but I sincerely hope that these problems are
addressed in the new firmware, and when that firmware is released,
I'll update my machine as soon as I can. The trouble is, the
Booksense used to keep its place in NLS books, why it no longer
does is a mystery to me. I even reinstalled the firmware that came
out in August, just to make sure. I have done more than one reset,
even the reset where you depress the reset button and hold down the
number 4 key.
At this point in time, unless someone has a great need to use the
device to read computer generated text, I cannot recommend this
unit at all. I hope that with the next firmware update that I will
be forced to change my mind.
Thank you all.
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