You say:
said before if an error is not generated then there is no way to debug the 
problem.

that is not true at all.
I am involved in many programming projects.
I mentioned gw giving us step by step instructions on how to provide them the 
info they need to hopefully find the cause..
Did you read my example of losing speech and getting no error report?
Also many times if you get a report of the state of the system even with out 
actual errors you can solve problems.

You say:
As mike has stated in another list an advanced error generation 
utility is in the works but will not make it in to 7.0.

I understand this and that's good.
But, I think it should be 7.0 for this ... my main thread mentioned that we 
need priorities and the loss of speech is a huge problem.
Do you agree that it's our biggest issue in this beta?
That also means that even GW agree's that more reporting / getting info from 
the state of the system is the answer.
I just think we need to reorder priorities and make the loss of speech at the 
top of the list.

I had an example of loss of speech with nothing I could provide GW with to help 
them solve the problem.
This is what I am trying to work on.
You went off and pointed me to scripts witch actually may even be the cause of 
the problem.
I don't need help getting the script but, did ask for ideas to get more info to 
GW.
Can you provide help there?
that is what I asked others to do in the first place.

I say:
When will gw make it easier to do.


I mean recover gracefully from the loss of speech with no errors.
With out sighted help this is truly hard to recover from.
Sam

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: jim grimsby Jr. 
  To: 'Sam bushman' 
  Cc: [email protected] 
  Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 4:12 AM
  Subject: RE: WE 7 Beta 3 issues and priorities


  When will a batch file start sending info to gw.

  Why would a batch file send information to gw?  That is what the error 
reporting system is for.  

  If an error happens after you restart window-eyes it will offer to send a 
error report to gw micro with the nature and cause of the error.  So we already 
have in place an error reporting feature.  

   

   

  When will gw make it easier to do.

  If you are meaning get packages this is already pretty simple.  All packages 
are available from the gw micro script central  page at

   http://www.gwmicro.com/sc 

  also there is an install packages script that you can get from there that is 
a lot like click and run or windows update in vista.  So you don't even have to 
go to the site you can get all your packages threw this script once it is 
installed.  

  I would once again like to ask gw micro to include this script as one of the 
default scripts.  This is going to be something everyone is going to want.  

   

   

  I still can't even get this script you talk about with out going to some 
third party sight that we may not even endorce.

  Well not sure what site you speak of above but if you are getting this from 
http://gwmicro.com/sc then it is indorsed by gw micro.  

  The less tech savvy of us can't even get this done.

  As far as the less tech savvy among us I don't know how much easier then 
install packages it can really get.  

  If you would be willing to describe the nature of your problem getting the 
script I would be happy to assist you in whatever way I can. 

   

   

   

   

   

   

  Even if I recover better (this is good) how does that help we fix things?

  My main idea was to help gw get more info to make speech more stable.

  Now we are spending time not even dealing with that and I dont' have time for 
it.

  No more from me on this.

  Well a utility that kills window-eyes is not and cannot do as you describe. 
As I said before if an error is not generated then there is no way to debug the 
problem.  Note this is not only true of window-eyes but all programs.  As mike 
has stated in another list an advanced error generation utility is in the works 
but will not make it in to 7.0.  

  It is not my intention to antagonize  here. I am simply attempting to assist 
you in getting the utilities you need to get the job done as the  situation  
stands now.  

  I do hope this helps.  


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