Sam,
Allow me to comment. First of all, your feedback (along with all other
feedback) is greatly appreciated. Window-Eyes is what it is because of
users like yourself who take the time to report issues. While it's easy
to get caught up in the esoteric debates that happen from time to time,
this list's value is immeasurable, and we are honored that so many
people take the time to read posts and reply. It's a community system
like none other.
On to Window-Eyes. Version 7.0 is essentially in code-freeze right now,
meaning that all that's going to happen for 7.0 has happened, and we
will most likely not be making any more changes. We will have an
official announcement of the release of Window-Eyes 7.0 in the very near
future. Understand that Window-Eyes 7.0 was supposed to release months
ago, but we've kept tinkering, fixing, adding, and updating because of
all the feedback we've received. But we have to make the cut some time.
If we don't do it now, Window-Eyes 7.0 will never ship. We already have
a lot of ideas for the next version, and we will begin working on that
on Monday -- we never stop making Window-Eyes better.
There were some changes that happened between 7.0 Beta 3 and what will
be the final version that may resolve the loss of speech problem you're
having, especially if you're using Eloquence.
Even though we're wrapping up this release of Window-Eyes, please
continue to provide your comments and suggestions. While we may not
respond to every thread, we do read every message.
Thanks,
Aaron
Sam bushman wrote:
Hi all,
I was hoping gw staff would respond to this:
Is it possible to get a beta 3 priorities list together?
What items should we be most focused on to have bug free / fixed?
What is the gw main focus?
I mentioned that I think the loss of speech is the biggest issue we face.
I also hoped that we could get more info to gw about these problems when
they happen.
I asked for ideas but, just got derailed in to a script discussion that
was a waist of time.
Maybe gw could give us a tiny single exe screen reader that would
provide enough speech to exit we and see if there are any errors on the
screen from windows?
Ideas guys are what we need to fix this.
Any info gw has to help with this would be great.
I would like to never lose speech again.
I realize that this is not a realistic expectation but, we should work
harder on this.
Thanks so much.
Sam
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Sam bushman <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Thursday, September 11, 2008 6:31 PM
*Subject:* WE 7 Beta 3 issues and priorities
Hi all,
Is it possible to get a beta 3 priorities list together?
I like it when we find bugs report them they are duplicated and fixed
for the next version.
But, we need to start to focus on the most important issues / a priority
list if you will.
In other words ... many of us are reporting the same things over and over.
I agree they are problems but, GW has basically said they aren't working
on msaa stuff.
So, email, web browsers pdf files (any thing that uses msaa is not the
focus).
It doesn't matter if we agree that is the proper order ... that is what
is set for fix / release.
I personally would have rerote the msaa / browse mode stuff way before I
would have added power point / itunes and scripting.
But, GW has the list of what they think best and we need to trust them
and be part of the solution for the next release ... isn't that what we
agree to when we use / run the beta.
Now please don't email the list debating with the above and the pros and
cons of this are.
I am not trying to speak for GW and am just repeating what I personally
think they said and ment.
Personally the loss of speech is the biggest issue for me.
I lost speach yesterday ... couldn't get it back for the life of me.
I had a sighted daughter say that we was running and she clicked around
and the computer was working perfectly.
She didn't know why the speach was not happening but, I had her click on
the system tray icon for WE and exit the program.
It exited cleanly and I just pressed ctrl-alt-w and we came back to life.
No errors of any kind and when I tried to send an error report WE said
there were no errors to report.
The sad part about this is I was not able to get GW any info to help
resolve this (huge!) loss of speach issue.
Since we would like WE to be rock solid and would love to have speech as
reliable as the screen output ... I am hoping all of us can come up with
a way to duplicate and help GW resolve this main issue.
Any ideas on this?
If GW could give us a list of things we should try and do in order when
we loose speech we may get them more info that would be helpful.
Currently I know that the story I just told about loss of speech above
doesn't help them at all.
But, If I know exactly what they are looking for and what they want me
to do in order and reported solid step by step info ... they could get
to the bottom of this.
Any ideas are welcome.
Any one else think the loss of speech issue is bar none the biggest
issue for us?
Thanks for listening.
Sam bushman
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