Okay guys, Don't you think enough is enough? Quite often unnecessary threads continue when the one perpetrating the thread does so for personal reasons or his gin or burban is talking, who knows? On this list, you can press control R to reply privately and go back and forth if you please to try to convince yourselves as to who is right and who isn't! I think there has been some good points on scripting made and I think much progress has been made in the past few weeks alone! Therefore, I for one will hit the delete key when I see a Chris Bell or whoever he is message and go on reading! That way, he or anyone else won't get the satisfaction of simply being a pain in the you no where!
Take care! Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "John G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 3:44 PM Subject: Re: Add remove script problem Chris the philosophy behind Window eyes scripting promotes the very opposite of your argument. Remember, window-eyes scripting allows you to use any old language, so long as you have COM automation in place. Think of it as your kitchen. You have your knives, pots, pans, the cooker,, etc. etc. What you do with them is not the business of the manufacturers. You might be a damn good cook/programmer, or a very bad one. the money you paid for your window eyes license wasn't for individual scripts. You paid for a functionaly extensive and extensible software application that, among many things, allows you to write scripts to perform functions that would otherwise be difficult or impossible to achieve with set files. John >That's why I plunk down my hard-earned money so that the supposed >experts can do it for me 'smile'. > >I'll give praise when it's deserved, and criticism when it's warranted. > >Do you fix all your own plumbing, and electrical issues, or work on >your own car? > >Did you build your own computer, or your own house? > >Bet you hired someone to do some of those things. > >I know that software makers are in a little different league, they >can't account for all the variable that are on everybody's machines. > >But still, why is any level of sloppiness acceptable for software, >and notfor other stuff? > >If you were having issues, you'd be screaming louder than anybody I bet. > >So let's ease off of the self riteousness. a bit buddy. > >Peace. > >At 03:53 PM 9/29/2008, you wrote: >>Well, here is one for size. Why don't you spend your time more >>productively by learning how to script and come up with your own >>safe 100% functional add/remove script? >>You demonstrate impresive insight into software design and >>debugging. I'm sure Window eyes scripting would be a piece of cake for >>you! >>Go on, as we say on this side of the pond, let's have you put your >>money where your mouth is! >> >>John >> >>At 21:16 29/09/2008, you wrote: >>>You bet, I don't kiss anyone's hind end, I tell it like it is, and >>>i actually am on a list dominated by jaws users and even folks who >>>work for fs, some of whom are very good friends of mine. >>> >>>Most folks here don't know anything outside of window-eyes and >>>have no idea of what really goes on over there. >>> >>>But when Jaws acts up, or there's trouble I write to them, and I >>>have gotten good support from my friends who work for Fs. >>> >>>So please don't patronize 'grin'. >>> >>>I'm glad you are having no troubles, so just let the rest of us >>>who are get about trying to get them resolved. >>> >>>You can cheer us on from the cheer-leader squad. >>> >>>Peace right back at ya man. >>> >>>At 02:06 PM 9/29/2008, you wrote: >>>>It's not a question of being scared to speak out. some of us, no, >>>>most of us try to take a constructive approach rather than lash >>>>out blindly. Moreover, some of us are not having these issues of >>>>which you complain. Have you considered that possibility? >>>>I wonder if we would be so brave on a Freedom scientific list. >>>>The lawyers would be coming down on you like a ton of bricks >>>>quicker than you could say Jihad for Windows! >>>>Peace >>>> >>>> >>>>At 19:51 29/09/2008, you wrote: >>>>> Pardon me, but I think people have a right to be >>>>> concerned is scripts don't work. >>>>> >>>>>After all, that was the big push in the last development cycle, >>>>>scripting pushed most other concerns to the back burner. >>>>> >>>>>So now if most of the company scripts are having problems, and >>>>>people are concerned, well, they paid good money to be. >>>>> >>>>>Removeing the script will certianly fix the problem, but that's >>>>>like removing your eye if you get something in it 'grin'. >>>>> >>>>>We're seeing a prime example of a little company who bit off >>>>>more than they could chew and didn't give them selves enough time to >>>>>chew it. >>>>> >>>>>I've more or less come to grips with we, using it for the things >>>>>it works well for. >>>>> >>>>>Web surfing, as long as you don't mind loosing your place a lot, >>>>>but I'm used to we. >>>>> >>>>>it's good for exploring stuff, and mousing around. >>>>> >>>>>The scripts mostly work when they're not generating errors. >>>>> >>>>>I don't feel warm and fuzzy unless I have 5 or 6 errors a day >>>>>but if the boys and girls are doing their job, this is helping them. >>>>> >>>>>I take great delight in making smart-ass comments when I send in >>>>>bug reports. >>>>> >>>>>But when we makes me mad, I have other alternatives. >>>>> >>>>>Some folks here don't and I'd be mad too if my main means of >>>>>access wasn't doing what I needed. >>>>> >>>>>So trying to keep a balance between productively trying to >>>>>squash bugs, and airing grievances, and being decent about it, >>>>>and giving the guys a chance, all in all, I gotta to say, when >>>>>someone's paid out good money, they expect results. >>>>> >>>>>I don't think they know entirely what they're doing yet, because >>>>>scripting is so new for we, so we're having some growing pains. >>>>> >>>>>But it is frustrating as hell when your trying to get work done. >>>>> >>>>>God I do wish we didn't get rushed out the door so fast, you >>>>>know a lot of people are afraid to speak up, but I've gotten >>>>>some interesting private emails about this and that. >>>>> >>>>>I get in trouble for running my mouth, but better to die on your >>>>>feet and live on your knees. >>>>> >>>>>So I tell all my students, and fellow we users, call them up, >>>>>write them, let them know what you need and what ain't workin >>>>>that's the only way things will ever change. >>>>> >>>>>If a blind man never stood up and fought for what they needed, >>>>>we'd still be out in the street selling pencils and begging for aums. >>>>> >>>>>Some of us still aren't that much further along. >>>>> >>>>>But as long as we are paying gwmicro salaries, we have a right >>>>>to ask, and to question, and yes, indeed to respectfully >>>>>complain when it is called for. >>>>> >>>>>Thank you, and soap box session over. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>At 12:09 PM 9/29/2008, you wrote: >>>>>>Why don't you just remove the script instead of engaging in >>>>>>endless debate? >>>>>> >>>>>>Regards, >>>>>>Robert >>>>>> >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "wayne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>To: "Sam bushman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>Cc: <[email protected]> >>>>>>Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 5:26 PM >>>>>>Subject: Re: Add remove script problem >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>his add remove is junk. >>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam bushman" >>>>>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>Cc: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 10:01 AM >>>>>>>Subject: Re: Add remove script problem >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You say: >>>>>>>>The Add/Remove script was really just a proof of concept, so there >>>>>>>>may >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Was this mentioned any where before people started using it? >>>>>>>>What other scripts are not for real? >>>>>>>>Thanks >>>>>>>>Sam >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 8:57 AM >>>>>>>>Subject: Re: Add remove script problem >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>The Add/Remove script was really just a proof of concept, so >>>>>>>>>there may be issues. All it does is read in the uninstall >>>>>>>>>keys in the registry, and then populates a list box with the >>>>>>>>>results. There are no uninstall checks or anything like that >>>>>>>>>to verify that an application can be uninstalled. It just >>>>>>>>>calls the string in the uninstall key to begin the >>>>>>>>>installation. As this is a GW Micro script, it is free to >>>>>>>>>modify and re-distribute, so if someone wants to beef it up, >>>>>>>>>they're welcome to it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Aaron >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Wendy Alling wrote: >>>>>>>>>>Hello to the list, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>I have the add remove script installed and when I activate >>>>>>>>>>the script with alt control a the list box comes up >>>>>>>>>>fine. The problem comes in when I try to remove a >>>>>>>>>>program. I get error messages that the program cannot be >>>>>>>>>>removed or that windows can't find the file. Is this >>>>>>>>>>supposed to work when you use this script? When I go to >>>>>>>>>>add remove programs in control panel it works just >>>>>>>>>>fine. If this is an issue with the script I hope it can be >>>>>>>>>>resolved as it is an easy way to remove programs. >>>>>>>>>>Wendy >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>>>To insure that you receive proper support, please include all past >>>>>>>>>correspondence (where applicable), and any relevant information >>>>>>>>>pertinent to your situation when submitting a problem report to the >>>>>>>>>GW >>>>>>>>>Micro Technical Support Team. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Aaron Smith >>>>>>>>>GW Micro >>>>>>>>>Phone: 260/489-3671 >>>>>>>>>Fax: 260/489-2608 >>>>>>>>>WWW: http://www.gwmicro.com >>>>>>>>>FTP: ftp://ftp.gwmicro.com >>>>>>>>>Technical Support & Web Development >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original >>>>>>>>sender only. 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