Hi Joe,
What you're saying makes sense. I'm not frustrated because I think
it's easy and some one should just get up one morning this week and
make it happen.
Rather, I'm frustrated for three main reasons.
First, the other two maincompetaters of windows are all fully
accessible and compadible with 64 bit, and the software outlay from an
end user standpoint is a lot less for either of them than it is for a
good commercial windows screen reader.
Two, no one has been blindsided by the development of 64 bit
computers. I've had a 64 bit computer for over 3 years now, and have
been building on 64 bit platforms lnger than that. The software
compadibility back then was such that it really didn't matter too much
what OS you ran. In fact, 32 bit OS might have run better because
driver support at that time was very limitted, even from mainstreamers
like ASUS, realtech, and ATI. That just isn't the case now, which
brings me to my third point.
It's getting harder and harder to get 32 bit OS. Most of our clients
want laptops, and because they are all blind or visually impaired,
they want very specific laptops. For example, we sell an hp notebook
that has a 22 inch monitor, but it ships with a 64 bdit opperating
system. So, it's great for low vision users, but we have to hack it
because their screen magnification program won't support 64 bit.
That's a couple of hours time the company has to pay for a technission
to do what? Cripple a $2500 notebook so it will work with the
software that makes it functional for the client. Same with clients
who are heavy into studio recording and masterring or other high
performance applications. We're not doing them a service by selling
them software that only makes use of half the machine's processing
power and a fraction of it's instructionset.
FS isn't going to come out with a 64 bit jaws for windows tomorrow,
but if they did, should we recommend to our clients that they buy a
bloated and highly, let's say, tempremental product that will surely
run twice as fast, or should we tell them to invest in a more solid,
comparatively cheeper product that isn't up to the market standard
with the assurance that when it does come up, and the client overhalls
his system for optimum performance, the implementation will be a lot
sleeker and nicer than the one currently on the market. What do you
advise a client in that senareo?
And there you see my frustration.
Best,
erik burggraaf
Certified Technician
Assistive Computing LTD Support and training
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On 19-Nov-08, at 12:09 PM, Joe Lanier wrote:
Hi,
Ok. Time for my rant hehehehe
Well, there are many big differences between the 32 and 64 bit O.S.es.
These differences
make it impossible to do a simple "port". I have had to do the
exercise of
"port"ing
software from older platforms to newer and from one type of platform
to
another in
the UNIX world. I feel GW's pain when contemplating the code/
technique
changes.
Believe me, its going to be a very long and painful process. The Unit
Testing alone
will probably take months. The data types are entirely different,
structures of
O.S. constants are changed, i/o structures and the list goes on and
on..
Any documentation
I find for porting from 32 to 64 reads like "Gone With The Wind" or
atleast
as long
of a read as the entire Chicago Metro phone book.
For those who didn't quite get the psychobabble above, lets try
this. Lets
take
a car that was designed to have 13inch wheels and retrofit it to use
30inch
tires.
Think of some of the steps needed to fix the problem. Simply
jacking up the
car
wouldn't help as the size of the tires are big enough that they
would touch
front
to back. Ok ok ok. that is a little extreme, but, these kind of
thought
processes
are what will have to happen for a good portion of the existing WE
product.
I guess the purpose of this email is to say that 32bit O.S.es will
be around
for
quite a while. Some will have to do some extra work to obtain
vista 32
bit. Where
it is a pain, what in life is easy. So, take a deep breath and be
patient.
Good
things come to those who wait.
With a smile..
Warm Regards.. Joe Lanier
From: erik burggraaf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 1:13 PM
To: tygur kwak
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Will we7 run on 4 g 64 system
You have a conflict here.
If you upgrade to 4 gb memory, then you need to upgrade to a 64 bit
OS to
use all
four gb.
If you upgrade to 64 bit OS then window-eyes will not run.
You can upgrade to 3 gb and use the vista that comes with, although it
doesn't say
here whether that is 32 or 64 bit. 32 bit OS' support up to 3 gb
memory, so
that's
it as far as that goes.
This situation is benighted, rong, and increasingly irritating.
Unfortunately blind
windows users are stuck.
Best,
erik burggraaf
Certified Technician
Assistive Computing LTD Support and training
Sales department: 888-828-2445
Support and Training: 888-255-5194
Email:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Website coming soon
On 19-Nov-08, at 7:08 AM, tygur kwak wrote:
on the listed hp 550 notebook
will we7 run if upgraded to 4 g memory on xp pro or vista?
here is stats:
Memory Type:
DDR2
Maximum Memory Supported:
4GB (Requires 64-bit Operating System)
HP 550 Notebook PC FW385AT - Intel Core 2 Duo T5270 1.40GHz, 802.11a/
b/g
WLAN, 1GB
DDR2, 160GB HDD, DL DVDRW, 15.4" WXGA, Windows Vista Business/XP Pro
Downgrade
Processor Brand:
Intel
Processor Class:
Centrino CoreT 2 Duo Processor T5270
Processor Speed:
1.40GHz
Processor FSB:
800MHz
Processor Cache:
2 MB L2 Cache
Additional Technologies:
Intel Centrino Processor Technology
Memory Type:
DDR2
Memory Size:
1GB (1GB x 1)
Memory Slots (Total):
2
Memory Slots (Available):
1
Maximum Memory Supported:
4GB (Requires 64-bit Operating System)
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