Hello Ed.
I can interact with Dragon and window-eyes with absolutely no keyboarding 
intervention.  So I find it interesting that you recommend that a person uses 
j-say .  If they lose all keyboard ability.
Interacting with window-eyes is simply a matter of changing the window-eyes 
keyboard layout, and instructing Dragon which keyboard commands you wish to 
press.  for example you could say press control l to read the current line.
You can also use the command editor to create your own command.  So read 
current line would then issue the control l command.
 if you cannot use the keyboard, to turn on, and off the microphone.  you can 
simply set Dragon NaturallySpeaking up to automatically have the microphone 
turned on and asleep.  Then you would say wake up and begin dictation.  When 
you want it to sleep.  You would then just say go to sleep.  Then Dragon will 
stop listening to you.  I should add here that I still have full use of the 
keyboard .  However, these are the steps you can take if you do not.
I hope this is helpful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Edward Marquette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 2:31 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Window Eyes and Naturally Speaking


Terese:
Good to hear from a neighbor.
Window-Eyes does work with Naturally Speaking 9.0; however, some continued 
keyboard interaction will be required.  I mention version 9 because that's what 
I have.  Version 10 was released recently, but I haven't tried it.  
I have JAWS and J-SAY Pro too.  Actually, I should say I did have them, but 
have since unloaded them.  I suppose in a home, single computer environment 
J-SAY might be fine, but its klunky copy-protection scheme never permitted me 
to install it fully in my office environment, and it takes hours and hours to 
do.  Plus, it messed up JAWS for me, or at least I thought so.
The only thing one gains with J-SAY, which has to work with JAWS, is total 
interface, which is quite a bit if keyboard interaction is impossible.
Even then, now that Window-Eyes supports scripts I would be surprised if a 
WE-SAY or the like doesn't appear on the market soon.    J-SAY is primarily an 
extensive set of scripts anyway.
For the present, if some keyboard functionality remains for your client, I 
would give Naturally Speaking a try.  The complex training required in the 
earlier versions of Naturally Speaking is no longer required.  I never trained 
version 9 at all, and version 10 is supposed to be even better.
There are some settings inside Naturally Speaking that you will need, but after 
that, Window-Eyes and Naturally Speaking get along pretty nicely.
I don't think you risk much by trying it anyway.  If your client does get to 
the point where keyboard interaction is impossible, you can switch to J-SAY.  
You used to be given a credit when you buy J-SAY if you already own a license 
for Naturally Speaking, and that is probably still the case.  Who knows?  By 
then, WE-SAY (I made up that name) may exist.
The most important Naturally Speaking setting is to put Naturally Speaking in 
the sys-tray.
I am sure there are many far more accomplished in the interface between 
Naturally Speaking and Window-Eyes than am I.
I've just been too busy to focus on it.
Hope this helps.
Ed Marquette
Kansas City, MO
816.460.2405 Office
816.561.7111 Home
816.812.0088 Cell


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