That is unfortunate. REALLY! I hope these issues can be handled. There are many programs that, when any error condition occurs, Window-Eyes just goes dead, all Window-Eyes hot keys don't work, and if you find a window which they work in, you must find a way to get to any part of the error condition window and left click on it, and the only way to maybe get to it is to make the mouse pointer handle the entire screen. Then, if your computer is not totally frozen, you can, maybe, left click. Funny how sighted computer users don't have the same kind of issues, when an error or warning condition occurs, all they do is merrily click on the window with their mice and go on their way when we find ourselves behind the access issues of a screen reader which becomes problematic at best.

Curtis Delzer.
HS
At 04:24 PM 11/28/2008, net bat wrote:
with me and vista it is not getting along.
it disables w e so the mouse clip keys and speak windows do not speak unless you keep tabbing until you find a static box. then the mouse clips can be used. f5 works fine but the main info you want to hear will not speak on its own. like if the virus file has been updated.
if the firewall is on or off.
if all traffic is being blocked etc. none of this info will speak until you find a static box. then w e windows,hyper active windows, mouse clip functions will work. when a message in windows mail(outlook express) is blocked by eset as spam and you try to unblock it the dialog warning turns off all w e speech until you can find the dialog, click on it to put focus on it then w e will speak this dialog and you can check the box to never show this message again.
this is with the newest a t i video driver.
so far a full scan has not caused a windows blue screen of death as it did when i first installed eset 4.0 with the older video driver.

----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Curtis Delzer
To: <mailto:[email protected]>Window-Eyes discussion list
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 1:34 PM
Subject: Eset smart security 4.0 and Window-Eyes.

Hi all. I was definitely mistaken! Window-Eyes 7.01 and smart
security by Eset v4.0 get along quite nicely. What had happened on my
system was that though I was not running Commodo firewall, there was
the service for it still installed and running. So, there were
compatibility issues, to say the least. Now that I have installed
Eset smart security V4.0, using f5, it all speaks, certainly as much
as 2.7, which I don't understand what 2.7 speaks that 4.0 does not.
Remember, please use f5 when it doesn't speak? I just don't see any
issues which are less accessible with V4.0 than 2.7, and I, with my
friends, ran 2.7 since it first was issued. In fact, out of the box,
with 2.7, it was not as accessible as v4.0 because that graphic user
interface option was on by default in 2.7, and the only way to get to
it, if you remember was to go to the nod32 control center, press
sent, setup and hit alt-S after you'd pressed control tab to focus on
the proper place. That was one which jfw spoke a little better but
after the graphics were turned off, Window-Eyes had no issues at all.
Now that I've installed v4.0, the firewall in "automatic" mode, seems
to be doing the job just fine, and is not nearly as user intensive as
the Commodo firewall. If you wish hands on interaction with your
computer, and, often issues which make Window-Eyes almost restricted
in speaking, Commodo is your friend, and it is probably a little more
secure, at a cost in accessibility, and, that is, if you understand
all of the programs that interact with the internet or private
networks on your computer, or parent programs which must interact
with their modules as children or side by side, and then the parent
has to end said module, etc. in order to work properly. Comodo is
very "hands on" and potentially, as all firewalls, quite technical,
though more than any other I've seen, and played with all of them.
So, to sum up, v4 of Eset smart Security, that I erroneously reported
had issues with Window-Eyes is as silent and unobtrusive as ever v2.7
is, even with a firewall. You can make it ask you about every
program, if you wish as well, though it is not that way by default.

Curtis Delzer.
HS
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