Hi Ari,

There are many things to like about WE and GW Micro over jaws and
Freedom Scientific, but I've been a jaws user for at least 10 years, and
a WE user for a few months, and laptop support is definitely not one of
the things to like. :(

I agree with every observation  of yours; also, you'll find that some of
the published laptop keystrokes don't actually work (they conflict with
what appear to be hard-coded keystrokes in browse mode such as
control-shift-underline, which says it will route the cursor in laptop
layout, but browse mode thinks it has something to do with tables, and
so it doesn't work).  Other functions simply weren't given a laptop
keystroke at all, and others were given ones that conflict with commonly
used keystrokes.

It's even harder if you try and switch between a desktop pc at work, and
a laptop at home, where-as with jaws there's no effort; just use the
capslock key as your modifier and you're there.

Given the market-share of laptops, this is one area that deserves some
attention in the next major release of WE.

I do admire GW for putting a jaws layout as one of their keyboard
options, and I'd really like to see a jaws keyboard layout as another.
That should solve all our issues, and help move more people over to WE.

Chip






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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ari [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 12:31 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: WE on laptop and browsing comments
> 
> Hi everyone,
> As a JAWS user getting accustomed to WE, I have a few 
> comments which, for 
> me, would improve WE. I am looking at this also from the 
> position of a new 
> user. I am trying to use WE on a laptop.
> 1. Some new users would like a braille listing of keystrokes, 
> which GW Micro 
> provides, but, as far as I can see, no laptop keystrokes are 
> included, I had 
> to find the appendix of the manual to find laptop keystrokes, 
> but I think 
> this should be noted near the beginning of the WE manual, 
> instead of the 
> user running around looking where to find it, and I would 
> have loved a 
> braille reference card with the laptop layout.
> 2. I don't know if it's just me, but once I found the 
> keystrokes, they seem 
> ridiculously more uncomfortable then the JAWS solution, which 
> just uses the 
> CAPS key as a sort of modifier key, here you have to press 3 
> keys at once, 
> and the lay-out doesn't seem that great.
> 3. I am starting to browse, but, I don't know if I'm wrong 
> here, and if I am 
> please correct me, but it doesn't seem like there is a way with WE to 
> navigate quickly to specific types of fields in forms. What I 
> mean is, with 
> JAWS you can go to a combo box with c, radio button with r, 
> or checkbox with 
> x, are there any such hotkeys for these different elements in WE?
> So far, from the little I've seen, what I like about we 
> compared to JAWS is 
> the hyperactive windows thing, and the feature which tells 
> you the different 
> states of the mouse pointer.
> Thanks
> Ari 
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