No then my configuration would not help you.  Because quite frankly I hated
the keyboard layout for window-eyes and did not care much for the jaws
layout to tell the truth.  So I when I switched to window-eyes created one
that I love.  Super pad is what I called the layout I maid because it put
almost everything on the numpad and still allowed the numpad with no
conflicts to function as it normaly would.  
What I was going to do was adapt this to a laptop configuration if it would
help.  
I pulled out my old laptop  and use the fn key with my  super pad layout and
it worked good.  
Sorry this is not going to be of any use to you.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Chip Orange [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 8:23 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: laptop layout.

Hi Jim,

First, I appreciate the kind offer you made.

I don't know what "super-pad" is, and so I'm not sure it would help.

What started this thread was that I thought WE's laptop support was really
lacking as compared to jaws.  This is because I could easily move from jaws
full keyboard at work, to jaws laptop layout at home, and never really
notice the difference.  This also meant when I received instructions from
others, or tried to help others, and the instructions involved a string of
keyboard commands, they did not need to be different or translated if a
laptop was involved.

Whether or not your efforts would be helpful depends on these same
conditions.  If I needed to learn an entirely new set of keyboard commands,
well, I guess I'd just use the WE laptop layout.  But since I'm using both
jaws and WE on both a laptop and a desktop, I'd really like to avoid that.
Converting from jaws is hard enough without trying to do translations of
someone's instructions from the standard keyboard commands to something odd
for the laptop.

If you think your super-pad would help me avoid some of these issues, I
would very much appreciate it's help.

Hope that's enough of an answer, and thanks again.

Chip
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Grimsby Jr. [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 12:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: laptop layout.

His uses both shift keys.  where mine uses the right shift only.  Unless he
has just updated the package.
I also removed the right control   key code because it was causing problems
with my Bluetooth  keyboard.  Go figure it worked fine on my USb keyboard
but it gave my Bluetooth one fits where the control key was sticking every
time I used the right control key. 
So I guess the bottom  line here is would it help you if I came up with   a
super pad laptop layout.  I should warn you I am an old bridge users so I
like lots of keyboard combinations.  So anything I maid would be really
functional powerful with very few conflicts.  But as David k used to say you
need to like to do the keyboard dance.  Let me know if this would help. 


-----Original Message-----
From: Chip Orange [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 8:26 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: laptop layout.

Hi Jim,

Yes, my windows key is right next to my fn key, down where you'd expect it
to be.  It's only my insert key that's in the far upper-right.

thanks for your efforts, and I believe Jamal has adopted your idea of
shift-capslock changing the capslock state in the latest version of his
script.

Chip





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Chip Orange
Database Administrator
Florida Public Service Commission

[email protected]
(850) 413-6314

 (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Grimsby Jr. [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 10:53 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: laptop layout.
> 
> Hi chip,
> Is your windows key an easy reach?  
> As for the remap caps lock script have you tried removing the section 
> that deals with the right control key?
> After I did this I found that sometimes insert got stuck but really no 
> major problem just strike it again and it becomes un stuck.
> To get shift insert functionality from the caps lock key I defined 
> right shift as caps lock with the caps lock so right shift caps lock 
> turns caps lock on and off and left shift caps lock gives me a shift 
> insert.
> 
> If you would like I will play with my super pad layout and see what I 
> can come up with for laptops.  This is way I wanted to know if the 
> windows key was in easy reach.
> 
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