Jaws users definitely do pay for scripts. I may be rong, but I think
that JTunes costed money, so did skype and msn messenger scripts
before they were bought out by fs and plugged in to jaws by default.
And then there are banks, call centres, insurance companies and other
huge conglomerants who pay thousands of dollars for custome jaws
scripting for their custome applications when they could have saved a
bundle just making them accessible in the first place. Make no
mistake, people definitely can and do pay for jaws scripts.
Best,
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On 5-Jan-09, at 10:55 AM, Sandra Fouts wrote:
Of course not! But I wouldn't buy scripts either. Right now I just
use what comes with window-eyes. Besides, do JAWs users pay for
scripts? I under stand what people are saying. They like them so
wel, they're willing to pay for them.
Sandra Fouts
Phone Counselor
Arkansas Attorney General's Office
323 Center Street, Ste 200
Little Rock, AR
501-371-2303
Fax 501-682-8118
-----Original Message-----
From: Chip Orange [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 12:44 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Scripts I would Pay For
So Sandra, would you steal a copy of window eyes if you could?
Refusing to pay for someone else's time who wrote scripts is no
different from refusing to pay the guys at GW for their time in
developing Window Eyes.
I'm a programmer, and I write a lot of word related VBA systems. I
could take on Ed's original request, I have the skills to do it, but
I have my own interests; so when I have time, I'll program my
interests and not Ed's, until that is, if he's willing to pay for
script development and I need the money. That changes things.
You should see that sometimes paying someone is the only way to
cause something that only you need to be developed. You should also
see that often that someone may not have a job and may need the money.
Hope you'll think about this.
Chip
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Chip Orange
Database Administrator
Florida Public Service Commission
[email protected]
(850) 413-6314
(Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandra Fouts [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 12:51 PM
To: 'Sam bushman'; [email protected]; Pat Ferguson
Subject: RE: Scripts I would Pay For
I don't think so! Next thing you know, some one will come
up with paying for set files! Then we'll being buying
software with very little access which we would pay extra
for! Something to think about before saying you would pay
for scripts.
Sandra Fouts
Phone Counselor
Arkansas Attorney General's Office
323 Center Street, Ste 200
Little Rock, AR
501-371-2303
Fax 501-682-8118
-----Original Message-----
From: Sam bushman [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 11:39 AM
To: [email protected]; Pat Ferguson
Subject: Re: Scripts I would Pay For
I am willing to pay for scripts.
I look at scripts just like any other software and am willing to pay
for software that is of use for me.
but, I am also greatful when people give scripts away ...
just like some software is now.
I would be interested in a list of programmers and costs per hour or
project ... just incase I need something written just for my needs.
I may even pay to have a script written for me and then give it away.
Sam
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat Ferguson" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: Scripts I would Pay For
Hi Everyone,
I would hope that we should never have to pay for scripts.
If I can ever learn how to write scripts, I would give them
away freely.
Many people such as myself, can't afford to pay for scripts.
Just my thoughts.
Pat Ferguson
At 03:56 PM 1/4/2009, you wrote:
I finally, sort of, made the switch to WE 7.01. I
immediately started
thinking about ways to make my work faster, more efficient, and
more
productive by using scripts.
I had actually become rather good with JAWS scripts. After plowing
through a tutorial on Visual Basic and the Window-Eyes Help
system on
scripts, I'm beginning to doubt whether scripting will make me more
productive -- at least if I have to write the scripts myself.
I went to Script Central and found some nice scripts. I
particularly
like the "Append to Clipboard" script. There were lots of cute
scripts, but not all that many productivity-enhancing scripts. Of
course, this could all be a function of the way I work, but II'm
guessing there are others out there who wuld rather do
their jobs than
learn VB Script and wuld even pay for
productivity-enhancing scripts.
Here are a few examples:
Jump to Element in Word:
WE already provides a nice facility for jumping to the next
revision
(in track changes), the next bookmark, the next comment, and so-on.
Why not a function to jump to the next heading or the next table?
Word itself offers this functiion, sort of, in the "Go To" menu,
but
it is decidedly awkward. I shouldn't think a script would
be that hard to write.
Style Picker:
Most of us who learned word processing with WordPerfect (or earlier
programs) still rely on direct formatting, even though every Word
trainer decries this practice, encouraging us to use styles. There
are some handy styles built into Word, and I have created Word
templates with many, many fore. The Word short-cut key is
control-shift-S. That, of course, conflicts with the "read status"
command in Window-Eyes. Even when using the bypass key and
following
it with the control-shift-S command, what one gets is not a list
box
of styles in alphabetical order that one can scroll down or jump to
with a key. Instead, one has to press Alt-O (for format) go to
"styles." Even then, the listing is decidedly uncooperative, not
readily responding to letter jump commands. Then, when one has
applied the style, the nasty task pain remains on the screen. That
can drive you nuts until you realize what's going on and
close it. I
would pay for a style picker script that let me press a key, scroll
down a list of scripts or jump to the "lists" with the
letter "l", and
allowed me, by pressing ENTER, to apply the script, close
the dialog box, and get rid of the task pain.
"Or" searching in Word
OK, I may be getting more ambitious here, but I'll bet I've had 100
instances in the last 30 days where I would have loved to have
found
the next occurrence of one word or another, e.g., "compensation" or
"remuneration," to give you the last instance or, even more
complex,
either a DeltaView "insert" style or a DeltaView "delete"
style. Yes,
one can search for formatting, styles, and even special characters
(like charrage return) in Word. Word, however, insists on
searching
for one item at a time. That seems primitive, and perhaps
my gripe is
with Microsoft, but I would pay serious bucks for a script
that would
search for alternate terms in Word.
Macro Stuff
I find that 90% of the script functionality (beyond those mentioned
above) are really almost macro-like. Yet, simply
simulating a tab key
press, an up arrow, a carrage return, and the like, within a
script,
seem to be mysteries. I couldn't find them at all in the
Window-Eyes
object model, and I'm 50 pages into this VB tutorial and
still haven't
found what I should think would be the most useful things
one could do with a script.
I have a somewhat proprietary applicatiion where information is
displayed in a phantom list view and reclassing doesn't help. A
script which, for example, let me press Alt-down arrow as a
hotkey (I
can do that part of the script) and have it press the down
arrow key,
route the mouce to the cursor, turn speech off, jump 2 clips to the
right, turn speech back on, and then read the next clip should be
an
easy script. It would be immeasurably valuable, but, well, it is
presently beyond me.
So, maybe I'll just go back to being a lawyer.
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