Please tell me which playback support the Stream doesn't have that
you want. If your answer is protected WMA, then you have a point.
Given that you have already misrepresented what the Book Sense has
and what the Stream doesn't, I question your reliability as a
source of information.
Bruce
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009, erik burggraaf wrote:
> Well, some of them are extra features, but most of them are just
> different features. I could buy a stream any time I want, but
it doesn't > have the recording support I want and it doesn't have
some of the > playback support I want. If the stream offered what
I want, I might > seriously consider it despite my own opinion on
most of humanware's > hardware lines.
> > This is going to have the features I want, so I will probably
buy it. > When it came to stream vs plextalk, Ptp didn't have the
playback features > american users wanted. No nls support and I'm
pretty sure no audible > support though I could be rong about
that. The stream had them, so it's > not surprising that the
stream is the better seller.
> > We won't see the nls book reader here when it comes out, so I
have no way > of knowing how it will stack up. If it has other
features besides the > ability to play nls content you might have
a winner in the US, but there > are other places in the world, and
there is still a demand for products > that compete on features
rather than on price.
> > Best,
> > > erik burggraaf
> A+ sertified technician and user support consultant.
> Phone: 888-255-5194
> Email: [email protected]
> > On 22-Mar-09, at 1:13 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
> > > I just don't see the point of internal storage when prices
on cards
> > are dropping like a rock. Mp3 has always been fine for what I
do, and
> > my icon can record in stereo if I need it. Different strokes
I guess.
> > My biggest issue with it all is that being third or fourth in a
> > limited market is going to make it very hard to make any
money, I'd
> > think. The extra features might sell to some, but for the
people who
> > just want a book reader, the only things that are going to
convince
> > them is a lower price or the death of one they already have.
I don't
> > know if the nls machine will be albe to read e-text, but if it
can, it
> > will be hard for anybody to beat the price on it.
> > On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:07:14 -0400, you wrote:
> > > Eh, Looks like you missed the 1-4 gb of internal storage,
binoral
> > > internal recording direct to mp3 and wav, and ogg and flac
support.
> > > Those were the features that cught my eye especially.
> > > > Best,
> > > > > erik burggraaf
> > > A+ sertified technician and user support consultant.
> > > Phone: 888-255-5194
> > > Email: [email protected]
> > > > On 22-Mar-09, at 12:35 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
> > > > > I must've missed it. I really didn't see anything in
the > > > > > booksense
> > > > that the victor stream doesn't do. I personally prefer
my icon. > > > > It
> > > > doesn't play digital nls books as well as the victor, but
being > > > > able
> > > > to get on the web anywhere there is wi-fi to grab the
latest news > > > > or a
> > > > stock quote makes up for that failing. My first victor
stream > > > > lasted
> > > > about six months before it gave up.
> > > > That seems about par for these sorts of objects,
considering the > > > > luck
> > > > I had with road runner and bookport in the past. I have a
> > > > two-year-old cell phone, but I can't figure out why it
still > > > > works.
> > > > > > On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:41:32 -0400, you wrote:
> > > > > > > Hum, well for one thing the development on this is
mostly > > > > > > > done by
> > > > > HIMS. I would imagine the decision to make a book
reader > > > > > probably
> > > > > rested with them, and that the development of a book
reader is
> > > > > detracting very little if at all from the development
of > > > > > window-eyes.
> > > > > > > > Which leads right in to another thing. GW
probably has to > > > > > > > > distribute
> > > > > and support the book sense or risk losing the
agreements they > > > > > have
> > > > > with the hardware developer.
> > > > > > > > And to finish up, the book sense is the best of
these > > > > > > > > players there
> > > > > is
> > > > > on paper. We'll see when the price emerges and we
actually take > > > > > the
> > > > > hardware out of the box, but HIMS and gw are developing
a solid > > > > > rep
> > > > > for putting the most amount of hardware and the best
quality > > > > > into
> > > > > this
> > > > > stuff. I'm supposed to like humanware because I live
in Canada > > > > > and
> > > > > they were first at a lot of this stuff and the peir
pressure is
> > > > > overwelming, but their hardware is built like junk.
Sorry boys > > > > > it's
> > > > > just a fact. Give me a nice plextor book reader any
day. The > > > > > thing
> > > > > is, the portable plextalk pocket doesn't compete on
features > > > > > nearly
> > > > > as
> > > > > well as it competes on quality.
> > > > > > > > I never thought I'd want to own one of these type
of > > > > > > > > players, but my
> > > > > mouth is really wattering over the book sense.
> > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > erik burggraaf
> > > > > A+ sertified technician and user support consultant.
> > > > > Phone: 888-255-5194
> > > > > Email: [email protected]
> > > > > > > > On 22-Mar-09, at 11:29 AM, Chris Hill wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Phone systems are based on recorded and
digitized human > > > > > > > > > voices.
> > > > > > They
> > > > > > have limited vocabularies and require a good bit of
processing > > > > > > > > > > power
> > > > > > to pull off. If you want your speech to be able to
pronounce > > > > > > any
> > > > > > word, such systems just don't cut it.
> > > > > > > > > > Now, why gw-micro would want to jump in and
be the > > > > > > > > > > third in the
> > > > > > market
> > > > > > of book readers, that one is beyond me. I'd much
rather see > > > > > > bug
> > > > > > fixes
> > > > > > in window-eyes.
> > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:01:02 -0600, you wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > It's sad when some of the phone auto sestem
sounds > > > > > > > > > > > better then > > > > > our
> > > > > > > voices; and yet, they want to charge us so much.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 03/21/2009, Mary Otten wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 01:58:08 -0400, Jeremy Curry
wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Voice Text from Voiceware
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sorry to hear that. I
don't > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > think any of the so-
called high
> > > > > > > > quality
> > > > > > > > voices are all they are cracked up to be, and
because they > > > > > > > > try > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > sound
> > > > > > > > human, when they fall down, they're awful. Maybe
its
> > > > > > > > psychological. But
> > > > > > > > despite the fact that these voices can sound good
when > > > > > > > > things > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > right, that condition seldom prevails, and a
wanna-be > > > > > > > > human is
> > > > > > > > much
> > > > > > > > worse than a more mechanical sounding synthesizer
with > > > > > > > > known > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > consistent flaws. So I'm sorry that there won't
be an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > alternative
> > > > > > > > such
> > > > > > > > as a tripple talk chip or even Eloquence. I know
that the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > choice
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > speech synthesizers is a personal matter. So I
hope that > > > > > > > > once > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > product is out, some consideration will be given
to adding
> > > > > > > > alternatives, although obviously, the hardware
approach > > > > > > > > won't > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > possible. Too bad, as hardware like the
trippletalk is > > > > > > > > still > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > snappiest, most responsive speech out there.
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