It's possible to locate the "Sample" option with the Window-Eyes mouse keys. However, I have noticed that this can be done reliably for a while; then, the position of this button seems to change, and one has to get used to placing the mouse on a different pair of screen coordinates. As far as I can tell, there is no reliable way to identify the location of this button without sighted assistance. Once it is known, one can navigate to the spot, but alas, not forever. <smile>

Craig

From: "Gary Petraccaro" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 6:11 AM
Subject: Fw: Audible


I'm copying the below message because of a problem I'm having with Audible's site. Whenever I look at a particular book, there's the word "sample". I would expect it to be a button or link of some sort. This is a response I got from someone on another list which might be meaningful to people here.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: Audible


When a problem like this exists, try more than one screen-reader. I tried
JAWS, window-eyes, and System Access to Go.  The only screen-reader that
sees the flash player and the button for listening to the sample is System
Access to Go.  I was able to listen to a sample using that screen-reader.
It might be a good idea to contact SF and G W Micro to inform them that
their screen-readers completely miss this control. they don't indicate in
any way that it is present.

Gene
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Justice" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: Audible


Gary,

I've seen no message explaining you having a problem listening to
samples.  My ISP filtering system might have stopped it.  Wouldn't be
the first time.  Also, my message you are responding to was in
response to another list member, and not directed at you.

I don't know what to tell you about trying out samples.  I think the
latest versions of Window Eyes and jaws can handle it, but as I have
neither latest program I couldn't say for sure.  I did give you the
name of the list for blind Audible members in another message.  I'm
sure someone there could help with the sampling problem.

Here's one thing I may be able to do.  Check out the following
address:  www.audible.com/twit .  Here you can sign up for a 14 day
trial and download 1 free book.  Cancel before the end of the 14
days, and keep the free book.  You can read the page for further
info.  Here's another address:  www.audible.com/twit2 .  Same kind of
offer except 2 free books and the monthly charge past the free trial is
larger.


If you take advantage of this, and they ask where you heard about it,
just say "TWiT".  Note that's " T W i T" with all but the "i"
capitalized.  I have no idea if they ask, but might as well give
credit to the people I got the info from.



  David



At 02:47 PM 4/1/2009, you wrote:
Well, I understand your point to a degree, but, as I've explained in a
previous message, I don't know what Audible sounds like because whenever
I've picked a book there is a sample on the page, but it doesn't act as a
link or button.
I am not signed up, yet and can't make a decision before I have a test
drive.

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Justice" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: Audible


> I've been buying books from Audible nearly since they started.  In
> all that time I've never tried to convince anyone to join or to stay
> clear.  Either way it makes no difference in my life.  However, when
> the subject comes up I will share my opinion.  In an earlier message
> I implied that content is more important to me than
> presentation.  Now, instead of implying it, I'll state it outright.
>
> For me, content is king.  As the quality of the content goes up, the
> importance of sound quality goes down.  The reverse is not
> true.  That is, if the sound quality is great but the story is crap,
> then the purchase was a waste.
>
> As I get into a book, I tend to ignore the sound of the readers voice
> and the overall sound quality.  The two exceptions I can think of
> right now are (1) a high pitched whine in the background and (2) low
> quality and deep voice.  The first gives me a headache.  The second,
> well, I can hardly understand deep voices even when overall sound
> quality is good.  Besides those exceptions, content trumps sound
> quality.  heck, I've even read, and enjoyed, a number of books read
> using an Echo synthesizer.  <GRIN>
>
> I'll state it again that I find the quality of Audible format 4 to be
> quite acceptable.  As for the samples, I no more use the Audible
> samples to judge the sound quality of their book downloads than I use
> the Amazon samples to judge the sound quality of their MP3 downloads.
>
> If one wanted to try out Audible, I'm sure he or she could get some
> sort of discounted trial.  If nothing else, he or she could listen to
> a This Week in Tech podcast.  That show is sponsored by Audible and
> the host gives out some sort of code or address.
>
>
>
>   David
>
>
> At 11:34 AM 3/31/2009, you wrote:
>>I have listened to samples of Audible's books and in my opinion the
>>audio quality is  rubbish. I don't know if the samples have been
>>reduced, but they are not good for listening to. My ears can
>>instantly tell that it is not the right quality and I've heard from
>>other people, even though they have a monthly subscription to it, is
>>slightly better, but not that much. I'd stick to CD's and rip them
>>onto the computer myself.
>>Samuel Wilkins
>>Email
>>[email protected]
>>Skype Cleverclogs6953
>>Windows Live Messenger [email protected]
>>A O L Instant Messenger Samuel4851
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: David Justice
>>   To: [email protected]
>>   Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:42 PM
>>   Subject: Re: Audible
>>
>>
>>   My opinion is that format 4 (or level 4) is quite acceptable. If
>>   you are listening to a book and constantly notice that it isn't CD
>>   quality, you should quit reading that book and find one more
>>   interesting. <SMILE>
>>
>>   The answer to your other question is
>> [email protected] .
>>
>>   I think you subscribe by sending a message to
>>   [email protected] but am not sure.
>>
>>   David
>>
>>   At 03:18 PM 3/30/2009, you wrote:
>>   >As it won't play on the Stream, I won't be interested in the
>> newest version
>>   >of Audible sound for awhile. As things now stand, would you think
>> level 4
>>   >comes anywhere close to cd or would it be the type of thing one
>> would listen
>>   >to and always hear the difference?
>>   >----- Original Message -----
>>   >From: "Bruce Toews" <[email protected]>
>>   >To: <[email protected]>
>>   >Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 2:48 PM
>>   >Subject: Re: Audible
>>   >
>>   >
>>   > > The highest quality level is what Audible is calling enhanced.
>> It
>> is
>>   > > much nearer CD-quality than level 4, which, while still
>> extremely
>>   > > listenable, is nowhere near CD quality. Enhanced audio
>> permits stereo as
>>   > > well. Currently, the number of devices capable of supporting
>> enhanced
>>   > > audio is limited, though Gerry Chevalier from Humanware has
>> publicly
>>   > > stated that they are seriously looking at the possibility of
>> supporting
>>   > > enhanced audio in a future revision to the Stream. I have
>> listened
>> to
>> > > material in this format using my computer and am very >> favorably
>>   > > impressed. Audible states that they want to have their entire
>> collection
>>   > > available in enhanced audio by the end of the year. This seems
>> a
>> touch
>>   > > ambitious, but who knows?
>>   > >
>>   > > Bruce
>>   > >
>>   > >
>>   > > On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:37:59 -0400, "Gary Petraccaro"
>>   > > <[email protected]> said:
>>   > >> I'm thinking of joing Audible, but have concerns about
>> quality. How does
>>   > >> the level 4 quality, which as far as I know is the best,
>> compare to cd as
>>   > >> far as clarity is concerned? Also, is there an Audible list?
>>   > >> Thanks in advance.
>>   > >>
>
>



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