I know of a few VI people who've had to use MS Access as part of training leading to qualifications in using MS Office Apps.
I've never quite understood why GW Micro seems to shy away from making this more "accessible" to W-E users. I've got the impression over the years that GW is sort of hoping that Access would go away, and I seem to recall a statement around SQL or other database programs overtaking MS Access. That hasn't happened, seemingly. I do know people who use MS access, at least in previous versions. Maybe I under estimate the challenge, but surely something could, should be done. Ray. Chip Orange wrote: Thanks much for that update. I don't like this, even though I don't immediately have a burning need for Access, but because it allows those selling competitor's products to say something like "brand X is, by GW's own admision, much better at supporting MS Office than Window Eyes." it would be a misleading statement of course, since most Office users don't use Access. I did have a quick look at Access 2003, and MS seems not to have used standard control types, nor did they even give each control a uniquename name or ID, so it's going to be a difficult task to make it accessible. Jamal's DB Dialog script is a wonderful start towards a replacement for Access 2003 (a replacement for their interface; it uses the Access 2003 database engine). It's always possible the way around this is to write an entire interface replacement in scripting. Chip ------------------------------ Chip Orange Database Administrator Florida Public Service Commission [email protected] (850) 413-6314 (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.) > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary King [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 12:31 PM > To: GW-Info > Subject: Re: access 2007 > > Chip, > If you and others want to hear what GW Micro is saying about > future plans to > provide support for MS Access on a par with other MS Office > applications, go > to the Audio Video Archives Presentations and listen to the CSUN 2009 > presentation entitled "Window-Eyes Freatures - Present and > Future." (A > little spelling correction needed there!) > > Near the end of the presentation, a question is asked about > support for MS > Access. Unfortunately, Doug doesn't seem to make a firm > commitment for GW > Micro to develop support for the only MS Office application > that it doesn't > directly support. He expressed the hope that someone out in > scripting land > would ride to the rescue as they did for Java. So those of > you who need > access to MS Access for employment opportunities, I guess > it's time for you > to learn how to write scripts. > > Gary King > [email protected] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chip Orange" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 12:44 PM > Subject: RE: access 2007 > > > Hi John, > > a friend asked me this very question over the weekend, and while I > didn't have access 2007, I did have access 2003. so, I > opened it up and > began to try some very basic things. > > I was amazed and unhappy to see how badly window eyes worked with > access. I checked the manual, no chapter on working with access. the > latest set file was for access 2002 (xp), so I had no idea if that was > of any help; however, if it was, then god help those before that set > file! > > it could be that ther are portions of access 2003 which work well with > window eyes and I just didn't find them, but the ones I found hardly > worked at all, except for using the mouse cursor. every > control was the > same type, making reclassing to improve things impossible, and there > were no scripts of course. > > It's also possible 2007 has improved it's accessibility, so you won't > run into the problems that I did. > > On a separate note, window eyes does not read any of the intellisense > dialogs for any office product in the 2003 family, and I > suspect in the > 2007 version as well. I have a script which does this for me, and > assuming you'll be doing vba programming, you'll also need, so I'll > start working on packaging it up so you can test it. I do test on a > module name which may be specific to the 2003 release of > office, in that > case these scripts won't work for you until I can get that module name > for 2007 and adjust the scripts. > > I'll be getting 2007 installed in a few weeks, but if you > want to hurry > things long, could you go into the VBA ide and get the module name for > me when in there? What I'm asking for is for you to go into the code > editor window, and use a script like the virtual explorer to see what > the module name and original class of that window is? in 2003 the > module name is VBE6 and the original class is VBAWindow. I > need to know > if these are the same for 2007. > > to go into the code editor, you could go into ms word, press > alt-f11 to > go into the VBA development environment, and press f7 to go into the > code window. > > I have a lot of e-books on access 2007 I could email you; > you'll need to > send me a request to my home address at: > > [email protected] > > and remind me what you need. > > Chip > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Chip Orange > Database Administrator > Florida Public Service Commission > > [email protected] > (850) 413-6314 > > (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not > necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John W. Carty [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 9:57 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: access 2007 > > > > Is anyone working with access 2007 and WE 7.01? I'm a long time > > mainframe programmer and I've just been given a project to design an > > access 2007 database application and I've never used access. > > > > I'm most interested to learn how to best navigate access with > > WE and how > > to configure access for best use with speech. > > > > Any information that could get me started would be great. > > > > John Carty > > > > If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original > > sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and > > your message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending > > your message to [email protected] so the entire list will > > receive it. > > > > All GW-Info messages are archived at > > http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo, and can be searched through > > and sorted using the search > > form at the bottom of the page. > > > > If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > > [email protected] and include leave gw-info in the body > > of the message. > > > > > > If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original > sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and > your message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending > your message to [email protected] so the entire list will > receive it. > > All GW-Info messages are archived at > http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo, and can > be searched through and sorted using the search > form at the bottom of the page. > > If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > [email protected] and include leave gw-info in the body > of the message. > > If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original > sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and > your message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending > your message to [email protected] so the entire list will > receive it. > > All GW-Info messages are archived at > http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo, and can be searched through > and sorted using the search > form at the bottom of the page. > > If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > [email protected] and include leave gw-info in the body > of the message. > > If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. All GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo, and can be searched through and sorted using the search form at the bottom of the page. If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, send a message to [email protected] and include leave gw-info in the body of the message. Ray If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. All GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo, and can be searched through and sorted using the search form at the bottom of the page. If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, send a message to [email protected] and include leave gw-info in the body of the message.
