Hi I think the issue here is progress bars in msaa is rather unusual so supporting this would only add support for a few programs. So using standard progress bars just made more sence. The question is should we work on what most programs use and support or should we work on what a few programs need. Also if Doug takes time out to work on progress bars for Msaa then he is taking time away from updating brows mode UIA support making scripts feel less like scripts and more like a part of the program itself etc. in other words things we might see in the next version of window-eyes. Things that will make gw micro money and allow them to provide better software. As it was said earlier an allocation of resources. Now all that being said gw micro now has a full time scripter on staff who may find time to update this script and others.
-----Original Message----- From: Sam bushman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 12:58 PM To: Jim Grimsby JR.; 'Raul A. Gallegos' Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: Feedback about the Latest Progress Indicator Script Hi Jim, I agree that's a good question. But, the reason I found it interesting is becuase mozilla is using msaa witch a few years ago we would have said fantastic ... they are using a method that we have access to. Sam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Grimsby JR." <[email protected]> To: "'Raul A. Gallegos'" <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 1:54 PM Subject: RE: Feedback about the Latest Progress Indicator Script >A better question is why isn't Mozilla using a standard progress bar? > -----Original Message----- > From: Raul A. Gallegos [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 12:27 PM > To: GW Info Discussion List > Subject: Re: Feedback about the Latest Progress Indicator Script > > Hello Sam. Keep in mind that our scripts are open source, so if you > can't wait for one of us to fix it...........Well, you have access to > the source. > > On 11/12/2009 1:22 PM, Sam bushman wrote: >> Hi Aaron, >> >> I understand the difference between msaa support in a script v support >> for it in we in general. >> >> In other words you are saying ... hey we supports msaa and even does in >> the scripting language. >> but, the author of the script ... hasn't added it yet because it's not >> popular enough. >> >> You refer to the scripts author? >> >> Progress Bar Indicator >> Released November 9, 2009 >> >> By GW Micro >> [email protected] >> www.gwmicro.com >> >> I understand the popular demand issue but, I am just saying it's >> interesting that msaa was going to be the best way for speech in aps. >> Now it's not even added because of lack of popular demand. >> I am just saying interesting. >> Thanks >> Sam >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Smith" <[email protected]> >> To: "Sam bushman" <[email protected]> >> Cc: <[email protected]>; "Michael D. Lawler" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:12 AM >> Subject: Re: Feedback about the Latest Progress Indicator Script >> >> >>> I think you're confusing support for MSAA in Window-Eyes, and support >>> for a specific kind of progress bar in this particular script. If it >>> weren't for Window-Eyes' robust support for MSAA, scripting the >>> progress bar wouldn't even be possible. >>> >>> It's simply a matter of resources and popular demand for the script >>> author. >>> >>> Aaron >>> >>> On 11/12/2009 1:10 PM, Sam bushman wrote: >>>> Hi Michael, >>>> >>>> that's to bad, I remember when msaa was touted as the best way for us >>>> to >>>> get speech for things like this. >>>> Now firefox uses it and we don't? >>>> Interesting. >>>> Thanks >>>> Sam >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael D. Lawler" >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:05 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Feedback about the Latest Progress Indicator Script >>>> >>>> >>>>> Currently this script only pays attention to Win32 progress bars not >>>>> ones from MSAA. We hope to enhance it to do so at some point in the >>>>> future. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> At 05:04 AM 11/12/2009, you wrote: >>>>>> I don't use the sounds but thevoice announcements. What I would like >>>>>> to know though, is, why it doesn't work in Firefox.I hear progress >>>>>> announced when using NVDA, so why not in Window-eyes. >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Pattison" >>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: "GW Info" <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:40 AM >>>>>> Subject: Feedback about the Latest Progress Indicator Script >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> First of all I appreciate the hard work people who write scripts >>>>>>> do to >>>>>>> provide so many useful scripts for people like me who don't have the >>>>>>> slightest clue how to write scripts or any other type of program. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> However I am very disappointed with the new sounds in the latest >>>>>>> version >>>>>>> of the Progress Indicator script. I find the new sounds very harsh >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> bordering on being annoying. However I appreciate other people >>>>>>> prefer >>>>>>> these sounds and I understand why GW Micro feel the new sounds are >>>>>>> better for people using laptops etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a suggestion that could possibly please everyone. Why not >>>>>>> create >>>>>>> another script with the original sounds and call it something like >>>>>>> Progress Indicator Classic or similar and make it identical to the >>>>>>> new >>>>>>> Progress Indicator script except for the sounds. Then you could >>>>>>> include >>>>>>> the edition of the script with the new sounds as the default script >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> Window-eyes and also on Script Central and as well make another >>>>>>> edition >>>>>>> of the script available on Script Central with the sounds that wer >>>>>>> used >>>>>>> previously with this script. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards Steve >>>>>>> Email: [email protected] >>>>>>> MSN Messenger: [email protected] >>>>>>> Skype: steve1963 >>>>>>> Twitter: steve9782 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original >>>>>>> sender only. 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