That is the obvious solution and uh, I build my own computers or have it done to my specs. Have never bought a brand computer and probably never will for obvious reasons.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Fouts" <[email protected]> To: "'Stephen Clower'" <[email protected]>; "gw-info-gwmicro.com" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:24 AM
Subject: RE: sent my computer to GW


maybe you should just buy a blank machine and all your software separately. "smile"

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-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Clower [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 12:19 PM
To: gw-info-gwmicro.com
Subject: Re: sent my computer to GW

It's just as nonsensical for a company to load one's PC with crapware as nearly every major player does. Yet, it happens, and never is such garbage ever beneficial to a computer's performance. Unfortunately, a reformat (or re-installation of a clean copy of the operating system) is almost always needed if you want the machine to work as it should. I don't like it either, but that's just how it is.

Regards,
Steve


On 4/6/2010 1:08 PM, Sandra Fouts wrote:
Besides, you shouldn't need to buy a new computer then turn around and reforemat it. Sorry but that's crazy.


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-----Original Message-----
From: John Gunn [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 12:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: sent my computer to GW

Aaron:

I would agree with formatting however I believe if one does your suggestion, HP might not honnor the warantee.

Take care,

John



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From: Aaron Smith [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 12:00 PM
Cc: gwmicro
Subject: Re: sent my computer to GW


To be fair, it's less about the fact that you have an HP, and more about the fact that you have an HP with all of HP's crap installed. If you were to reformat and re-install, you'd have a brand new machine, that would rock with Window-Eyes. I wrote about this, back in the day, on our blog: http://www.gwmicro.com/blog/index.php/all/?title=new_pc_woes.

Aaron

On 4/6/2010 12:26 PM, C. Richcreek wrote:

         Hi All, I am also using an HP but this is a laptop and having
issues. Most of the issues are caused by HP but WinEyes is, for the
small part, having some issues also, I would advise anyone and
everyone not to buy an HP because many of their Win7 HP  support
programs are done in all flash? It seems that Microsoft takes two
steps forward and HP takes four steps backwards in accessibility.
Another issue is with Windows Live Mail. I don't see how the calendar
can get corrupted data in it when I never go into it but when this
happens the email program can not be opened, sheeze, multiple problems
and WinEyes is the easiest so far to get through. Sorry about the so
long rant but just had to spill. Thanks dearly, Craig R

         From: Don H<mailto:[email protected]>
         Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 5:40 AM
         To: gwmicro<mailto:[email protected]>
         Subject: sent my computer to GW




When Windows 7 came out back in October I had a free upgrade coming from HP on my recently purchased Desktop computer. Now don't lecture me on why it is a bad idea to install a newly released operating system as I totally agree but hey I am old and don't have time to wait for it to be bug free as bug free never happens.

After installing Win 7 and WE 7.11 I had problems with a random crash of my system when I started WE after a boot or computer restart. At this point I couldn't say for sure if it was a Win 7 problem a computer problem or a Window Eyes problem. I contacted HP with no help, contacted Microsoft with no help and reported the problem to GW and got the response that they couldn't duplicate the problem.

After numerous WE generated error reports being sent to Aaron Smith at GW I got the response that maybe WE was causing the problem and a possible fix would be in 7.2.

Well the WE 7.2 beta 1 changed the problem in that WE no longer generated a error message but I was still getting the crash.

Aaron Smith finally told me that the only way that they could potentially fix the problem was for me to send GW my computer.

I didn't really like the idea of sending them my computer but I also was fed up with the problem. So a little over a week ago I sent in my computer.

After they received my computer it got top priority for Aaron Smith and others at GW to figure the problem out and get the computer back to me in short order.

After a day of work at GW they did indeed agree that Window Eyes was causing my problem and after another couple of days they pinned it down to a timing problem with the Windows Log On service and GW did in fact resolve the problem on my computer and will include the fix in the 7.2 release of WE. Aaron indicated that this fix would probably benefit a small number of WE users with the same or similar problem.

It cost me a total of $19 to send GW my computer and since it was in fact a WE problem they paid the shipping back. I see that as a few dollars well spent and just another indication of the great support that GW provides.

So when GW recommends that you send in your computer don't be like me and hesitate and send it in if at all possible. You will probably get your problem solved and maybe just maybe make Window Eyes even a better product.

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