No, not give up, but seek to get those standards in place. But then, to try and get the thousands, millions maybe? of sites to comply would be a mind blower. I am not saying it cant be done. But to create work arounds? For how long? I know many people are impatient but I believe that they should be impatient with the powers that be who should set the standards and then seek compliance and ease up on the screen reader makers.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "James Mannion" <[email protected]>
To: "Robert C" <[email protected]>
Cc: "GW Info Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: WE AND GMAIL


Right those factors are true to an extent, however there are also web
technologies that we should try to be advancing in being compatible
with. It's not always just the ever changing state of flux that single
handedly creates the problem as being compatible to every extent we
can with the web technologies. Your message suggests an answer of oh
well, it is always changing so much, what could we possibly do, so
just give up on it? That was the tone I got from the message. Maybe I
was incorrect in taking it that way.

Jim


On 8/21/10, Robert C <[email protected]> wrote:
    Web design is extremely non standard and constantly in a state of flux
so how can GW Micro or anyone else possibly keep up let alone catch up?
Many web sites I visit often never remain unchanged for long.

And there is not the least bit of standard on the web. Many many sites
use poorly designed frames or lots of moving banners or whatever, some are
worse and use crap that follows you up or down the page and oh dont forget
the pop overs or pop unders.

Then we have the browser developers too which do not always make surfing
all that easy either.

Quote of the nanosecond. . .
If you were arrested for being kind, would there be enough evidence to
convict you?
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----- Original Message -----
From: "James Mannion" <[email protected]>
To: "Morne Van der Merwe" <[email protected]>
Cc: "GW Info Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: WE AND GMAIL


I think that is just one of those instances where WindowEyes current
web capabilities flat out let us down. WE, in my experience as well,
does not work with the standard version of gmail at this time. Browse
mode and web capability absolutely desperately needs to be overhalled!
I sure hope this does not slip in priority because web access is such
an extremely important necessity. Right now we can, to a large extent,
access the web of yesterday but not a lot of things programmed using
the current methods. Yes it is hit and miss and you can mouse around
things and get access and that works sometimes, but not predictable
and not consistent. I very strongly believe this is a huge concern.

Jim


On 8/21/10, Morne Van der Merwe <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi list,

I'm talking to anybody using gmail.  As you know, you may use basic
html in gmail.  You can also use an older and a newer version of it.
Currently I use basic html, however, there are nice features in the
newer version of gmail.  But, according to me, WE does not work very
well with the new version of gmail.  Example:  I cannot find my
deleted messages to empty it.  Are there any person out there with
advice?

Regards


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