I agree, more ingormation needed. Though, i dont understand what is wrong
using Microsoft Outlook email client. Since most users have office. It works
perfect.

Take care
Terje Strømberg

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 8:54 PM
To: gw micro
Subject: Re: WLM One More Time

I mostly agree with Peter on this, and I tried to raise this issue almost a
year ago.  The problem is not so much that there
are no alternatives, it is that people will se getting a Microsoft product
as being relatively safe.  The fact that Windows 7
does not actually include an e-mail program, WLM is going to be the program
that many people will assume is a
companion to Internet Explorer as Thunderbird is to FireFox.  Neither is
precisely true, of course.  there are some
alternatives, and I also understand that this may not be a top priority for
GW Micro for some good reasons.  What I feel
we are missing, though, is an explanation as to what the reasons are that
Windows Live Mail is so problematic.  Is
Microsoft using a newer technology like UIA that hasn't been fully
implemented by screen readers which means that we
just have to wait, or is Microsoft needlessly doing something that makes the
lives of screen reader developers and
therefore consumers more difficult?  It is possible that GW Micro can't
answer the above question because of
nondisclosure agreements, but much of the frustration on this is due to the
lack of information.  In my case, I can no
longer send mail using SMTP from inside my employer's network except with my
work e-mail address which forces me to
use web interfaces.  However, Windows Live Mail allows interfacing with
Microsoft's HotMail and Live through there
maile interface which let's me interact through an e-mail client.  Someone
here mentioned that Thunderbird had a plug-in
to do this, but I have not found such a thing.  We need to be patient, but I
also think we need more information from
someone.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson


On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 08:25:10 -0400, Tactile Display wrote:

>WLM will be around for many years to come because Microsoft has made it a
part of Windows Live Essentials and has
decreed that Windows Live Mail will be the replacement for Outlook Express
and for Windows Mail on Vista. The reality
is that most folks who by a computer will get Windows 7 whether they like it
or not and will consequently download
Essentials and try to use Windows Live Mail - as a free e-mail client which
in fact offers many nice features.

>The solution is not to blame GW Micro, blame Microsoft, switch horses,
rather fix the problems and be done with it.

>Windows 7 is the only real game in town, so let us play rather than bitch
or switch! As always, I am sure the both GW
Micro and Microsoft will make us all happy in a while. I am only surprised
that GW released such a mess as the initial
pass on WLM. (But, we need to acknowledge that GW has hundreds of demands
placed on its development resources,
for we want our favorite program to work for us, even if we are the only
folks who want to use them.) I would have not
made such a public fuss about WLM except it will be a "core" program used
within Windows 7 for years to come.

>Peter Duran

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