Hi, I also use gmail and I think it is a great thing that we have the html option and unfortunate that the reality seems that we are restricted to it and can not use the full version. For the things that the html version does however I have come up with some quick ways to get around it. The poster who talked about having to navigate through a bunch of links to use it made me think it might be useful to someone to share these methods. I'm sure you can tweak or do whatever you want or just not bother at all if you don't want to use them. Here goes:
When in the inbox pressing n followed by x will jump you to the first message check box. Then you are right there above the first message. This assumes hitting control-home first to start at the top. When I get to a conversation that I want to read and to be able to return to my messages list after that, I highlight and copy the subject up to and including the - that is right before that start of the message clip. This is important to not copy beyond that - because the clip displayed is going to change after you have read the thread. The reason for coppying this is because after reading through the thread, of course jumping by heading if desired to jump through the messages in the thread, press alt left arrow to go back one screen. Alternatively you could use the back to inbox link if you really preferred to. It's not necessary to specifically use the link though to get back to the inbox though. Alt left arrow works fine. Then when back at the inbox, window-eyes is not usually going to put you back on the message link you were on. So pressing shift control f and pressing control v and hitting enter should put you back on the link of the message thread you were reading and then you can continue. It is more efficient to do than it sounds. The reason I said it is usually what you want is because if you got a real quick reply in that thread in the time it took you to get back to the inbox, then that thread will be at the top of the list and no longer will be the place marker you want it to be. Another method would be to set a place marker quickly before pressing enter on the message thread and then after returning to the inbox go to the bottom of the screen and jump back to the first place marker you come to jumping backwards through them. The reason for that from the bottom up thing is because if you are doing this as a process then it is going to set a string of place markers, one each time you do it in your session. I am not aware if there is a way in window-eyes to set a quick temperary placemarker with just one key stroke that replaces the previous one you had set with such a method. If there is it would be very useful in this situation and I would like to know it. I have looked though. I almost forgot, when reading inside of a message thread, to get to the first unread message in the conversation from the top of the screen, press n followed by o to jump to the first combo box and then press h twice to jump to the name of the person who set the message. Then a few quick down arrows through some links will have you in the message. I have tried some other shortcuts to not press those down arrows through the links and stuff, but down arrowing through them is really the quickest way at that point. There are some other shortcuts, but they don't really come out much quicker because you have to do them a couple of times anyway as well. The reason I say this is going to take you to the first unread is because gmail has a useful feature that it only has the message tree in a conversation expanded starting with what you have not yet ever had opened. To see older ones that have been opened before you have to expand them by clicking on their links or by just expanding all. This is very very useful and I am really glad it does this. It would be really difficult to find the first unread if it did not. These methods make using gmail html version fine for me for reading through messages. I tried using thunderbird and that was faster in being able to just enter into messages and close out of them, but the problem I found with it was that when viewing messages as threads, and it is not worth it to me if I can not use threaded conversations, thunderbird has some problems with its threading where some messages that come in are lost. I don't know where it puts them, but I confirmed this to be true where some things came in and were there in the web version, but I never could find those messages in thunderbird at all in the threaded view. When I switched to not viewing as threaded they were there. What lead me to discover this and explore the issue was that I would hear thunderbird tell me there were new messages that had come in, but I could not find them some times. Hope this helps. Sorry it is long. Jim On 10/1/10, bbs <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi. If you have Windows XP, you can use outlook express to use gmail. That > way you don't have to navigate through links to get what you want. I use > Outlook Express so I should know. However, if you use Windows 7, there's no > Outlook Express which is a darn shame. That's why I'm not jumping out of my > seat to go and upgrade to Windows 7. > > Shawn > If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender > only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is > related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to > [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. > > GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You can > manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv. > > If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. 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