Nimer, i believe your comments are harsh and uncalled for. While you might be a mentor for gwmicro. I think that gwmicro, has been doing a real bang up job. Browse mode has a lot of things to do with other things. It is essenchial, that things be put in place for things to work out. all of window eyes updates are essenchal to the workings of the product unlike the fish. the fish does not have the stable contance of window eyes and will never have such a following.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Nimer Jaber" <[email protected]> To: "Steve Pattison" <[email protected]> Cc: "GW Info" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 4:11 PM Subject: Re: Guess What? - Window-Eyes 7.5 Beta 1 - New User Interface Hello Steve and all, I've read this guess what thingy and I've listened to the blind bargains podcast. I have used and recommended window-eyes to others for some time now, and have enjoyed the stability that window-eyes used to offer. I am also on the mentor list of GWMicro. However I can't recommend this product any further. I am really amazed that browse mode hasn't been fixed yet. Aria isn't new. Dynamic pages aren't new. Having a layout that allows a user to see how a page is displayed to a sighted user possibly allowing for faster navigation isn't a new or revolutionary idea either. However, window-eyes doesn't have these essential features. When GWMicro released scripting, I was really looking forward to continued use and stability but the scripting engine, on my machine and others that I've talked to, is unstable and scripts still either slow down or completely lock up window-eyes. Just having scripting enabled slows down performance of window-eyes. Many apps _are not being supported out of the box, and if they are, they are extremely cumbersome. My hope that UIA support will help change some of this, and that GWMicro will get their act together, stop trying to make money, and work on browse mode. I am not a full-time programmer, and GWMicro has not offered a paid upgrade in sometime. They've given many free upgrades to their users. I understand the need to generate income. But it seems to me that GWMicro is starting to go down the same path that their main competitor is going down, which is to offer upgrades that aren't adding screen reading features while possibly changing the look or the way something is done. I haven't seen list messages requesting an interface change. Does this mean that they haven't gotten some requests? No. Will the new interface make things easier for users to use window-eyes? Possibly, possibly not. Only time will tell. But even if it does, making your product usable so that the interface can serve a purpose seems to me like a more logical decision. You can't drive a car without an engine if the first thing you put on is the paint. Worry about the look and feel and interface _after you got your product working and as stable as it possibly can be, to make sure that you follow the mission statement. Thanks, and I really hope that window-eyes eight will fix up window-eyes so that it can continue to be the most stable screen reader on the market. I would love to continue supporting GWMicro, but it is becoming increasingly difficult to do so. Nimer J On 01/02/2011, Steve Pattison <[email protected]> wrote: > After reading the first in the "Guess what" series for WE 7.5 I'm really > looking forward to the new interface. I think the new interface will > make WE easier to use and also cause WE to look more like other Windows > programs visually for a sighted person who might be teaching people how > to use WE. Also for those who remember or are interested in historical > trivia this new interface breaks the link with the old interface that > was based on Vocal-Eyes! But I think it's time for this change. > > Regards Steve > Email: [email protected] > MSN Messenger: [email protected] > Skype: steve1963 > Twitter: steve9782 > If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender > only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is > related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to > [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. > > GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You can > manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv. > > If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You can manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv. If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You can manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv.
