How about the character dictionary? Chris Tekell <[email protected]> wrote:
> That is what we are talking about, the exceptions dictionary won't > work for those examples as it doesn't recognize symbols. Try to enter > in a word with a symbol and then give it the proper pronounciation and > save the exception and you get the exception ignored. Add to that the > fact that some words are really hard to get pronounced correctly with > characters accepted by the exceptions dictionary and here is what we > are talking about. > > We aren't even close to AI territory, if the exception dictionary > could accept the symbols used to represent pronounciation in a > dictionary with the dot symbol used to split syllables and bold > characters representing stressed syllables, it is just a more complex > exception dictionary not an AI. AI would be a system set up to learn > on its own and make descisions on things like Homographs according to > context. This isn't what we are talking about. That said, such a > versatile dictionary would be pretty complex even without the > descision making abilities. > > Regards, > > Chris > > At 04:59 PM 2/4/2011, Robert C wrote: > > Isnt that why there is an exception dictionary? How else can one > > expect WE to learn things that are off the wall such as the examples > > you give? You would be straying into AI territory there. > > > >Quote of the nanosecond... > >Conscience is what hurts when everything else feels good. > >Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn > >E-mail- > >[email protected] > >Home Page- > >http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/ > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Tekell" <[email protected]> > > To: "David" <[email protected]>; "Tom Kingston" > > <[email protected]>; "Traci" <[email protected]> > >Cc: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 3:52 PM > >Subject: Re: how can I make WE speak a character > > > > > >I'll give you an example right off the top of my > >head. I read this news story on new albums a > >while back and was wondering who this singer Key > >Ha they were talking about was, not my style of > >music, but I thought it an odd name. So, when I > >navigated to the name and investigated I found > >her name was Keisha but she used a dollar sign in > >place of the s in her name. I hav encountered > >other names like this as well as titles of songs, > >movies and books. I would love to have WE say the > >title of the movie Se7en as just Seven as it > >should be pronounced. I don't find this to be a > >huge deal, but would like to have this ability, > >of course I would also like to be able to use the > >phoneme symbols for better pronounciation as well > >as have a way to tell WE which syllable to > >stress, but we are now getting really technical. > >It would be nice though just to be able to copy > >and paste the pronounciation guide from an online > >dictionary into the exception dictionary and have > >that work. There are some words I just haven't > >been able to get quite right like anime and as a > >fan of the genre who hears that word a lot it is a bit annoying. > > > >Regards, > > > >Chris > > > >At 04:37 PM 2/4/2011, David wrote: > >>Does not accept punctuation characters... > >> Well, I guess I can see your point, on what it is designed to > >> do. Yet, in the 'modern' world, wouldn't it be of interest to > >> exceed that initial idea? At least, I would think it would have > >> been great, if dictionaries accepted punctuation as well. Just > >> think of the case, where you want your screen reader say 'dot' > >> instead of 'period'. Or, like in the initial of this one, with > >> modern smily faces and hugging symbols. Seems a bit old fashioned, > >> that there is no way to sort out that kind of cases, without you > >> having to be a scripter or programmer. So, GW, how about extending > >> the dictionary feature a bit here, and go modern? > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Kingston" <[email protected]> > >>To: "Traci" <[email protected]> > >>Cc: <[email protected]> > >>Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 5:40 PM > >>Subject: Re: how can I make WE speak a character > >> > >> > >>> Unfortunately not. The word exception dictionary does not accept > >>> any punctuation characters other than the apostrophe. It's > >>> designed to correct the pronunciation of standard words. And each > >>> entry in the character dictionary will only define a single > >>> character's pronunciation. > >>> > >>>Regards, > >>>Tom > >>> > >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Traci" <[email protected]> > >>>To: "gwInfo" <[email protected]> > >>>Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 10:50 AM > >>>Subject: Re: how can I make WE speak a character > >>> > >>> > >>>>A little side question here. > >>>> > >>>> Could I follow the same directions, and get we to speak some > >>>> emoticons I might find on the web? For example, on facebook, > >>>> people are always using the colon and P, or colon and D. > >>>> > >>>>Thanks, > >>>>Traci > >>>> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Kingston" > >>>> <[email protected]> > >>>>To: <[email protected]> > >>>>Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:17 PM > >>>>Subject: RE: how can I make WE speak a character > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Hey Chip, > >>>>> > >>>>> Sorry for the confusion. Dictionary only is just the way I use > >>>>> it because other than in a programming environment I never want > >>>>> to hear all punctuation. And obviously all is all or nothing. So > >>>>> I put what I want to hear in my character dictionary and set all > >>>>> punctuation to dictionary only. This also allows me to make any > >>>>> changes in the way I want things voiced. > >>>>> > >>>>>Hth, > >>>>>Tom > >>>>> > >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Chip Orange" <[email protected]> > >>>>>>To: <[email protected]> > >>>>>>Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 5:42 PM > >>>>>>Subject: RE: how can I make WE speak a character > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>thanks Tom for the very detailed explanation. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I think my concern however was in setting the miscellaneous > >>>>>> punctuation to > >>>>>> dictionary only, for when you do that, you lose all the other > >>>>>> characters you > >>>>>> may have heard. somehow, in this very twisty discussion, I > >>>>>> thought you were > >>>>>>recommending she switch to dictionary only? if so, that's what I had > >>>>>>concerns about. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Chip > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>>From: Tom Kingston [mailto:[email protected]] > >>>>>>Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 4:24 PM > >>>>>>To: Traci > >>>>>>Cc: [email protected] > >>>>>>Subject: Re: how can I make WE speak a character > >>>>>> > >>>>>>It depends on how you want it to work. If you just turn miscellaneous > >>>>>> punctuation on the character will be voiced using whatever name > >>>>>> is assigned > >>>>>> to it in the character set, such as: one half. But let's say > >>>>>> you'd rather it > >>>>>>voice: "a half." Then you can place it in your character dictionary and > >>>>>> assign that name to it. There's two ways you can place it in > >>>>>> your character > >>>>>>dictionary. > >>>>>> Place the mouse pointer on it, or, use Shift+Left or Right > >>>>>> Arrow to select > >>>>>>it and Control-C to copy it. > >>>>>>Now press Control-Shift-E to open the exception dictionary dialog. > >>>>>> Tab to the character dictionary button if it's not in focus and > >>>>>> press enter. > >>>>>>If you used the mouse the character should already be placed in the > >>>>>>"Original" edit box. Otherwise, use Control-V to paste it there. > >>>>>>Tab to the "Replacement" edit box and enter what you want voiced. > >>>>>>Tab down through the remaining options and set them. Then Tab to OK and > >>>>>>press enter. > >>>>>>Now open the Window-Eyes control panel and save the character > >>>>>>dictionary. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Hth, > >>>>>>Tom > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>From: "Traci" <[email protected]> > >>>>>>To: "gwInfo" <[email protected]> > >>>>>>Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:52 PM > >>>>>>Subject: Re: how can I make WE speak a character > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>Yes, how did you do it? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Also, does we speak the actual symbol ½ ? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Traci > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Kingston" > >>>>>>> <[email protected]> > >>>>>>>To: "Traci" <[email protected]> > >>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 11:44 AM > >>>>>>>Subject: Re: how can I make WE speak a character > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>If you don't want all miscellaneous characters spoken, define the > >>>>>>>>character in your character dictionary. Then be sure to save that > >>>>>>>>dictionary. Then open the Window-Eyes control panel, Alt-S Screen, U > >>>>>>>>Punctuation, and set miscellaneous to dictionary only. Then be sure to > >>>>>>>>save the set file. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Hth, > >>>>>>>>Tom > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Traci" <[email protected]> > >>>>>>>>To: "gwInfo" <[email protected]> > >>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 1:46 PM > >>>>>>>>Subject: Re: how can I make WE speak a character > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>Have you received a reply to this? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I've been googling and playing around with we, and I can't > >>>>>>>>> get it to do > >>>>>>>>>it either. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>I looked in the graphic dictionaries, but I must confess, I don't > >>>>>>>>>know > >>>>>>>>>anything about those. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>This is a head scratcher, and now I want to solve the puzzle! Lol! > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>Traci > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol and Roger" > >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> > >>>>>>>>>To: <[email protected]> > >>>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 4:20 AM > >>>>>>>>>Subject: how can I make WE speak a character > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I have been trying to get this symbol, ½ (one half) to be > >>>>>>>>>> spoken by WE. > >>>>>>>>>>I have tried labeling it with the exception and the character > >>>>>>>>>> dictionary. It speaks when the cursor passes over it, but > >>>>>>>>>> does not speak > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> in reading, for example, when arrowing down by line. Can > >>>>>>>>>> someone help > >>>>>>>>>>as it is difficult to looc for things like sizes and measurements > >>>>>>>>>>without reading each space. Any help is appreciated. > >>>>>>>>>>If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original > >>>>>>>>>>sender only. 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